I noticed it was the anniversary of the Iraq War (march 20) So i decided to post this in remembrance of all dead. I'm not sure to mark as NSFW or not, or if this post belongs. I will understand removal

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I noticed it was the anniversary of the Iraq War (march 20) So i decided to post this in remembrance of all dead. I’m not sure to mark as NSFW or not, or if this post belongs. I will understand removal

No need for a NSFW tag, and it's both important and historical, so it definitely belongs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, thanks. I had more brutal pictures in mind, to represent the unjustifiable brutality that happened in Iraq, but that would be fucked up.

I have more, but here's some:

Images

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, thanks. I had more brutal pictures in mind, to represent the unjustifiable brutality that happened in Iraq, but that would be fucked up.

Even brutal pics are welcome, as long as anything with death, gore, or the like is marked NSFW.

History is often not pretty, especially when highlighting terrible crimes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

For anyone who is interested in the awful torture techniques the CIA were using, presented in as much of a light hearted way a YouTuber can: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEqrm9OIqro

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting.

That war cost a million Iraqi lives (calculated by excess deaths). And not to forget all the others killed by the sanctions in the 90s and the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, where the USA actually allied with Saddam and egged him on to start it.

For Iraq, the USA truly was the evil empire.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that was just one war in the wider war on terror. There were a lot of other countries (UK,Germany,Italy,Canada,France,Netherlands etc etc) but the US was the worst of them all.

4.5+ million dead. 38 million displaced.

PS: After the first gulf war, Iraq had to pay $52.4b+ dollars in reparations, since it was pressed by the UN security council. Guess how much the US paid in reparations for the invasion? Nothing. The UN didn't bother.

Of course people are silent, it would take too much of a toll on their economy, therefore their convenience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US still holds about $100B in oil money it stole from Iraq.

But it actually stole way more, perhaps more than a trillion, which Iraq had to pay to private US contractors. The American taxpayers and soldiers got fleeced in that war, too.

[+] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Its so fucking horrible how Iraq got destroyed BECAUSE OF A LIE and the politicians and war criminals involved got off Scot free.

They've still yet to see a penny from the US as reparations. And of course, there is no international support. Don't forget the UK, Australia and Poland too (countless others on the war on terror in general, too)

Al ghuraib, Haditha massacre, the countless other killings of civilians.... Its senseless and brutal. But to the west, Arabs aren't human enough for empathy I guess. (Unless they have oil, like the sauds)

I'll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

Oil reserves in Iraq are considered the world's fifth-largest proven oil reserves, with 140 billion barrels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Iraq

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ll check blowback later,.thank you for the link.

Blowback is done by campist cretins, fair warning.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Name a single thing about the Iraq War they got wrong.

Ah yes, wherein I said "They got the Iraq War wrong".

Oh, no, wait, I noted they're campist cretins, and you know this because we literally had this discussion before. Nice attempt at playing dumb, though.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh so you recognize they actually know what they’re talking about.

That's a pretty bizarre extrapolation from me recognizing that they're campist cretins.

What camp are they “campist cretins” to then?

Second-campist. Do you not know what 'campist' means?

It’s laughable you think tweets are evidence

Yes. How hilarious it is that I think their own words are evidence of their positions. Ha ha.

and not like, their articles since they are both critically acclaimed journalists.

So is Glenn fucking Greenwald, that doesn't make him not a cretin.

The tweets don’t back up your claim either.

Oh, right, apologism for atrocities is only bad when it's US atrocities.

We’re in a thread about the casualties of the Iraq War and you’re trying to discredit the two journalists that have created the most accurate and complete telling about the Iraq War that actually recognizes the humanity of the Iraqi civilians bombed, tortured, and starved to death in some of the most inhumane ways imaginable by the US. Like, wtf.

Have they considered not discrediting themselves by being genocide apologists for non-US atrocities, or is that too much ask?

I apologize, in the future, I'll be sure to paper over and cover up genocide apologism if the apologist sometimes agrees with me.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly do you think there saying is apologia? You don’t show what Noah Kulwin is responding to, nor are his responses incorrect.

Ah yes, when performative leftists sudden become "fiscal conservatives" once the issue of resisting genocide comes up.

Well, the issue of resisting Russian or Chinese genocide, at least.

THEN the dollar value of lives becomes extremely important to campist cretins, for some reason.

Nor is Brendan James wrong about the American Method of the US State Department deflecting criticism about foreign policy.

"The US created/fueled/escalated the Ukrainian War!"

Fucking bootlicker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

At least they're paying for them now, in a way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

The people who prepetuated these crimes are in no way suffering. They're high on the hog at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2nd Iraq War.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sorry, i'm confused. Do you mean the second gulf war? Because that's also called just the "Iraq War"

Forgive me if i'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

According to Wikipedia:

1st Gulf War: 1980-1988, Iran vs. Iraq
2nd Gulf War, 1st Iraq War: 1990/1991 US vs. Iraq
3rd Gulf War, 2nd Iraq War: 2003

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Ah sorry, i thought you were correcting me on something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

90 years after Fao