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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you all complained when in C we used 1 and 0...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Akcshually we use 0 and "not equal 0", since "not 0" would be 0xFF..FF, and (at least gcc) gives back a 1 for a true expression. No idea about the spec, probably undefined...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Damn you for correcting me correctly! :D

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

var true = false;

var false = true;

[–] [email protected] 180 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So we need to be careful with upper- and lowercase. Meanwhile the docs: > settiings

[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, the settiings are different than the settings. You also need to be careful with those.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

had to use a different spelliings at backend and frontend, otherwise it wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

no, settings = settings but settings != Settings, as we all know.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

They specifically said "this is not a typo"!!!

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Could be worse. At least it's documented

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Is the backend Python and the frontend JavaScript? Because then that would happen and just be normal, because Boolean true is True in python.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Probably, but if you're interpreting user inputs as raw code, you've got much much worse problems going on, lol.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[...]&register=import os; os.system("sudo rm -rf /"); return True

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Hey, that's my username too. Or it was going to be, while the site was still up.

What a coincidence!

I guess I'll wait for the site to come back, and see if it's still available...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the settiings file... It's probably supposed to only be written by the system admin.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

A good place to put persistent malware. That's why when using docker images always mount as ro if at all possible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

It’s you can modify the settings file you sure as hell can put the malware anywhere you want

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I curse the sadist who decided True should be uppercase in Python

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Can't they just convert a "true" input to backend to uppercase

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Yep they should use a config file format like JSON or TOML or YAML or what have you, and then decode that into python objects. Using an actual programming language for config is dumb as hell IMO. (inb4 pissed off suckless fans)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The backend and frontend on the product I work on are like this.

As long as you remember that booleans are not strings and should always be parsed if they are, this won't be a problem.

I am yet to see a boolean.parse() implementation in the wild that is case sensitive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

The could be using .js and .py files directly as config files and letting the language interpreter so the heavy lifting. Just like ye olde config.php.

And yes this absolutely will allow code injection by a config admin.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Implying Hell is frontend.... yeah, actually, that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Baseball, huh?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Glorious. I remember some hilarious nonsense in an API where the devs I worked with hadn't known they could just use boolean in JSON and had badly implemented it through strings, but this... This is amazing!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

At my last job we had a lot of old code, and our supposedly smartest framework people couldn't be bothered learning front end properly. So there was a mix of methods for passing values to the front end, but nobody seemed to think of just passing JSON and parsing it into a single source of truth. There was so much digging for data in hidden columns of nested HTML tables, and you never knew if booleans would be "true", "TRUE", "1", or "Y" strings.

Never mind having to unformat currency strings to check the value then format them back to strings after updating values.

I fixed this stuff when I could, but it was half baked into the custom framework.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The cherry on top is that they didn't even spell settings correctly.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

settiings is spelled differently on the backend

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What happened to the good old 1

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Backend: 1

Frontend: ¹

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’ve always hated case sensitivity. I know that at an ASCII level “variable” != “Variable” but is there really a reason to have a distinction between them?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

You are thinking it's easy because you only think of e == E, but I'll let you look up collation and accents and, you know, Unicode and let you think about it.

There is nothing trivial about case sensitivity, except in trivial cases.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You stated the reason yourself. Those are different values and matching in a case-insensitive manner is more work under the hood.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We do plenty of stuff for human consumption. Computers work for us, not the other way around. Insensitivity should be the default. It’s okay to give options. I’m not saying take that away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

✋ Case insensitive filesystem
👉 Case insensitive file sorting

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hear me out, what about using JSON to store the configuration in the Python backend?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Cap in the back, low-key up front. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

That makes me think, perhaps, you might be able to set it to exec("stuff") or True...

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