memes

Autopilot literally switched ITSELF off less than half a second from the moment of impact. it didn't try to stop the car, it just shut itself off so it couldn't be blamed.

Imagine if someone whipped throwing knives at your back and then tried to argue "but your honor I was not holding any knives at the time of the stabbing"

Fuck Tesla, fuck Elon, fuck every simp who shits excuses out their mouths for him

(I mean, not YOU, you aren't doing any of those things; I'm just saying, those people. In general.)

Mark did an interview with Philip Defranco and posted raw footage showing/explaining that Autopilot turned itself off instead of hitting the brakes.

They also did two takes, it did the same thing both times. The first time, they just used a poster instead of a full foam wall. They decided to add the foam for a better visual once they realized it would just happily plow through it.

Finally there's some argument of Autopilot vs FSD; but both rely on the same cameras and should have at least tried to brake. The LIDAR car braked and it was just using emergency braking, no self driving at all.

It shows they didn't even watch the video. The only reason Mark used autopilot was because without it the car failed the simplest test.

The test was with a kid being in the middle of the street and Tesla didn't even stop in time.

https://youtu.be/IQJL3htsDyQ?t=9m38s

I watched some Tesla-sympathetic youtuber for balance and here are the key points brought up:

1. He had a death grip on the wheel (because y'know, he knew he was going to crash). Exerting enough force over time on the steering wheel disables autopilot, because the system assumes you want to manually override what it's doing.

2. FSD apparently is much more capable, but this Tesla only had the common AutoPilot turned on. Despite having FSD available (Mark apparently claimed he didn't know he could turn it on without adding a destination)

3. Mark might have some sort of sponsorship deal with the LIDAR company featured in the video, which is why LIDAR was shown in a much better light (e.g it was shown stopping for a dummy behind the water spray, but in reality a LIDAR based system would just brake for the water spray itself)

Now all of those might be true, but you're also correct in that the emergency braking system should be operational even when AP is disabled. Unless the system malfunctioned (just having a dirty camera is enough). I know my Subaru throws out the adaptive cruise ALL the time. Stupid camera based system. You'd think it's better off because the cameras are at the top of the windshield, compared to most cars front grille mounted radars, but nah, it just keeps turning off.

From following video with raw footage they initially used a poster, but seeing that Tesla would just plow through it they built the styrofoam wall for a better effect.

They also didn't need to put an actually wall behind the photo and destroy the Tesla, but why not?

I also like how this particular video pissed off Tesla AND Disney.

I guess credit is due, but with a basic understanding of the technology, I would be surprised if it did stop. Seems like a very set up and timed thing he's done just as a fuck you to Elon.

Which Elon deserves, he's a fucking flog. I just didn't think the video was that impressive.

Pyrotechnics included.

My old m3 has lidarr, but the fucker shut it off because he's an epic nazi fucker.

The FSD promise was mostly just market manipulation. Sure they might actually get it done at some point. But the time line they proposed was just a scam. And it worked seeing the market cap.

Teslas famously don't use lidar because Musk declared that cameras were good enough. Reality disagrees, but reality owns no shares of Tesla.

Yea, to my understanding Tesla does not use LiDAR and that's the issue. They just use cameras I think. Other people posted videos in this thread: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ

I can't be bothered to care/watch anything Tesla related, but apparently the lack of lidar is the thing being tested.

The other self-driving car didn't though

Humans with two working eyes can tell the difference between a flat painted surface and a 3D world. Humans with only one eye might crash, though.

Someone should make looking at your phone while driving illegal. Maybe even slap it with a catchy name like "distracted driving" and make the issue a whole big deal.

You're not wrong with the comparison, but the whole point of the computer having control over the vehicle is that this doesn't happen, despite the driver's abject negligence.