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Gladys and Nelson Gonzalez have called the United States home since 1989. Their three daughters, now grown, were all born and raised in California.

“For nearly four decades, they have built a life here — raising three daughters, giving back to their community, and recently welcoming their first grandchild,” their daughter Stephanie Gonzalez wrote on a GoFundMe page for the family. “Now, they are being treated as criminals.”

Last month, the parents checked in at an immigration court in Santa Ana, just “like they have been doing since 2000,” Stephanie wrote in an email to CNN.

But this check-in ended with a much different outcome.

The couple was arrested and handcuffed during their February 21 appointment and put in federal custody, where they spent three weeks before being deported to Colombia.

“We didn’t expect that they would be apprehended and held in custody. And again, it’s not really unique to them anymore. It’s happening across the country,” Crooms told CNN, pointing to recent immigration policy changes in the US two months into the current administration.

The Gonzalezes spent many years searching for a viable path to citizenship, paid their taxes and never had any trouble with the law, according to Crooms and their daughters.

Ideally, the couple would have been given time to get their affairs in order and say goodbye to their daughters and grandchild, according to Crooms. But that didn’t happen.

“We had to go and pick up their car from the parking lot and didn’t get to say goodbye,” Stephanie said.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where are they sending these people? They don't have a home in another country.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago

They are being sent to a place that is both as horrible as the Nazis want and as far away from legal representation as the Nazis find convenient.

It’s Nazis doing this, so there should be no question that it’s horrible and wrong. But, unlike the Nazis, they didn’t get legal clearance first before they could do these horrible things. That means there is a chance to fight that.

Rebellions are built on Hope

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

El Salvador

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is how you get people to stop showing up to their hearings.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the point. Show up deportation. Don't show up anything that points them to you=deportation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t show up, now you’re a criminal and we can say we’re deporting known criminals

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

They were calling you that already

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And so begins the “one drop” Nazi policy.

These people weren’t deported because they weren’t white, they were deported because they had enough “not white “blood for the current Nazi administration to report them because they made the Nazis look bad

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were deported, because they were in the country illegally and were ordered to leave 25 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

False but also,

If you don’t like being called a Nazi, stop spreading Nazi lies

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"In 2000, the immigration court found no legal reason that would allow Gladys and Nelson to stay in the United States and they were issued a voluntary departure order, which gives people a certain amount of time to leave the country at their own expense to avoid a deportation order, according to ICE."

Who was President in 2000? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

According to trump supporters, it would be Obama.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

LOL. Truth.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They couldn't get citizenship during all those 35 years?

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I suggest that you research the process of obtaining a green card and, after that, attaining actual citizenship – including all of the rights one is granted in the meantime, before you make any judgment against these people.

What the government is currently doing, is not only expressly and extraordinarily illegal, it is forbidden by international law. And it’s forbidden by international law because of what the fucking Nazis did. And what the Nazis did, the Trump administration is very much trying to do, in full force.

If you have any doubts about this or questions about this, you clearly have an IQ under 20.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So what should they have done in there intervening 25 years after receiving a voluntary departure order? Just hope it goes away or is never enforced?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

At last 25 years, there has been a path of reasonable and legal recourse. Just because you wish to ignore that, doesn’t make it true.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, they exhausted all their options over the last 21 years and were told in 2018 they should get ready to depart. They then stayed another 4 years anyways after they exhausted all their options and knew if it was going to be enforced they were going to be deported.

The only reason they can claim about raising a family is specifically because the system gave them an huge amount of time to sort things out. But that doesn't mean the time is, or should be, indefinite.

For all the people literally being grabbed off the streets for a traffic ticket or an op ed article, a couple being given 21 years of litigation and almost 40 years of time here to sort out their status before ignoring the unfavorable outcome doesn't sound like this just dropped out of the sky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I suggest these two should have done that before coming here illegally.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The United States, starting centuries before it was founded, and continuing for centuries afterward, has been founded on the undebatable strength of industry we have gained from immigration. This entire country is built from immigration – mostly because those who came before committed in massive genocide against the natives of this land.

So when you question the value of any incoming immigrant, just remember that nobody ever had to endure such shitty fascist in dignity until shitty fascists made it a thing.

And, as someone who is continuing the shitty, fascist viewpoint that nearly destroyed the United States in the 1920s and 1930s, you are advocating for that same amount of undemocratic, un-American, absolutely fucking shitty fascist bullshit that, nearly a century ago, we very well knew was shitty, fascist, bullshit that would terror our country apart.

And you are no better, because the only reason you would endorse this shitty, fascist, bullshit is because you are so stupid that you have yet to learn why it is ultimately self-destructive.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Man, this idiot didn't deserve the amount of thought you put into this reply. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, if you get disappeared, should we assume that you deserve it?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (13 children)

A informative video which I recommend most should watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hpgu7wSUQQ

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised. I have no idea what their specific situation was, but I've known a couple people going through the green card process. And each was its own brand of long, painful, and expensive.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You forgot to insult the commenter asking the question.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure it would have mattered.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Saying they supposedly "broke the law" and worked illegally for decades is disregarding the economic benefits their cheap labor brought to US corporations, who no longer had to pay American wages. If we then them away we are turning our backs on our own corporations.

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