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A notable mention is https://ubports.com/en/ which is different from postmarketos in a sense that ubports uses old kernels with heavy patches. That means: good support for things, but difficult future.

PostmarketOS uses the newest kernels and tries to integrate their patches into mainline kernel, so that the reliability is maintained with all kernel developers.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am sorely tempted, but its unlikely my banking apps and very specific work 2fa app is anything but Apple and Android compatible. I am almost at the stage of getting a second phone for day to day, and keeping my old for specific apps

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You should consider changing bank if they don't provide a regular website with at least the same functions as their app.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Ah yes, so easy. Just change banks bro.

Sometimes I wonder if there are any acual adults using Linux. Lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Actually, what is hard about changing banks? I give my bank info to as few entities as possible. And almost all of them would take a few clicks and possibly a few days to verify some tiny transaction and I would be done. Changing credit cards is far harder. But also. Why are you using the banks app on your phone. That phone is probably the least secure electronic you own. The attack surface on that thing is absolutely huge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you considered that maybe not everyone is like you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We are all unique, just like everyone else.

But it was a serious question actually. Probably doesn't read that way though. I'm on the older side, so I might not know about what the kids are doing with thier bank accounts these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

It could be up to hours of mild inconvenience!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The new bank will happily organise anything for you, and if not, it is not the right bank, because they clearly don’t want you as customer, like this.
Customer support generally gets worse as you are longer at the same bank because you are more and more less likely to switch your bank staying at a bank. They invest in the customers they see risks of loosing or see a change of winning the most.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Most banks these days need their app as well to log in to their website because of forced two factor authentication

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

just give us a headphone jack and removable storage and you'll have a customer for life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind easily swappable batteries

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 157 points 5 days ago (33 children)

I can't wait for Linux phones to be stable enough for a daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)

2026 will be the year of the linux phone

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Please stop. I can’t get my dick back into my trousers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Given that Win10 is getting deprecated this year and Win11 has specific hardware requirements, I think 2025 could be the year of the linux PC. I'll be curious to see how massive corporations for which this would mean millions or billions in hardware upgrades to stick with Win will square that circle.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that has been said since before the nokia n600. lol

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago

And we'll keep saying it until we get there.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The FuriPhone, which runs the FuriOS Linux distribution (based on Debian), has a polished enough user experience that it can be used as a daily driver by many people.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

They are already. My Redmi Note 7 runs Droidian perfectly.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It seems like Linux-compatible android handsets stopped around 2021. Except a few bespoke models that are hard to get your hands on outside of Europe.

I have a OnePlus Nord N10 flashed with Ubuntu Touch as a tinker device, unfortunately in the US it's not daily-able because we shut down 3g and 2g networks and they still haven't managed to get VoLTE working on Ubuntu Touch yet (though it may be coming in the next year!) so phone calls don't work.

There's also the Pixel 3a/3a XL which are plentiful and cheap but I like the N10 a bit more because of the additional RAM. Makes it feel a little less old compared to the Pixel.

If you can get your hands on a Fairphone, Pinephone or Volla those are great but hard to get outside the EU.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Sorry but the pinephone is not great. I have one and its extremely underpowered to the point of uselessness.

Its like trying to use a 486 to as a current desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Government should make standards for banks to support different operating systems. Not particularly well known OS.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (4 children)

give me ANYTHING that's open-source and not tied to google or apple. i don't care if it's shit. i'm old. i just need a phone and maybe some pics and browsing.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is an open-source Android fork lots of people like, it's what I'm planning on using once I get a new phone

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (5 children)

While I'm a fan of GrapheneOS, I think it could still be considered "tied to Google" both due to it being based on Android, and also because it only runs on Google Pixel phones. Graphene focuses more on security, then on privacy, but not so much on reducing our dependency on Google's software and/or hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

SailfishOS is fully functional and usable if you do not need any playstore-only apps. Even then they have now implemented microg in v5.0

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Phone functionality is the least of my problems, I need an open source replacement for Android Auto / Apple CarPlay.

Not sure how that would work, you'd either have to emulate it to talk to the infotainment system, or get all the infotainment producers to add an open source layer... Sounds like a nightmare either way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We had the AUX jack but they axed it to sell earbuds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have heard that Apple removed the headphone jack to kill compatibility with those Square credit card readers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

And yet here I am supporting people who use square credit card readers with Ipads as one of my job responsibilities..... They just switched to bluetooth

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

That was the purpose of MirrorLink, but I think it's dead now. I only ever saw Volkswagen support it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Be nice if Linux phones could be like how Samsung phones used to be before they started removing features to directly compete with Apple smartwatch markets. I don't understand how competition=downgrades because they wanna stretch features out to sell more products than how it used to be when both companies were all about being the One Phone That Does it All. I can afford the one gadget, always have and always will, but especially now when everything is so expensive I can only ever afford the Samsung A-Series not their main marketed S line.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

But, do you ever need anything more than a A series phone? Or just want?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Eventually I'll try one. I feel like it can be like desktop Linux where it take a very many many long years until it starts to chip away at single digit values of market share

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's worse. Linux desktop is only possible because of the relative consistency and openness of x86 PC hardware. Phones are nothing like that. At best we will have retro Linux handhelds with phone functionality.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean I've been using /e/os for a while now and it works like a charm!

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