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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would argue its more how much you're a part of the in group. Compared to a man a woman is in the out group. Compared to a white woman a black man is in the out group. The person in the outgroup is just the aggressive one. Gender is only one dimension IMO.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That depends on the make up of the group just as much as the make up of the person

Your white male KKK neighbour isn’t assertive

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why I generalized it based on the in and out group dynamics.

I am unsure of the point you are trying to make.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Your post focuses on people being in the out group

It comes off as racist/sexist

Compared to a man a woman is in the out group. Compared to a white woman a black man

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sorry those statements offend you cause you can't understand the point I'm trying to make Go enjoy some boobies and feel better. Or don't.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You don’t have to apologize, just in the future don’t paint minorities as outsiders

It normalizes hate

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure good job talking over minorities tho.

[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's a good point that we shouldn't passively describe them as outsiders. The problem about that is the original post is criticizing that society sees women as aggressive rather than assertive for the same behavior. The comment you have a problem with is not condoning that point of view. It's pointing out that the problem goes beyond gender and happens to those seen as 'outsiders'.

They're trying to add nuance to the post.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch.

[–] Vegasvator@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you saying all women that give opinions are bitches? Yikes. Why do you think that way?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's explaining the sexists' train of thought, not endorsing it himself.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This guy is a troll, he didn't deserve your explanation

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unless you're a short man. Then you're just compensating or have Napoleon complex or something.

Or Short-Man Syndrome. I have a 6'4" friend who used to joke about SMS, until I pointed out several men we know who behave the same way, but are tall, and asked what syndrome they have. Kudos to him, he started seeing the discrimination, and now uses his "tall privilege" in group discussion settings to direct attention to the short members when the group ignores/talks over them.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Make you being short their problem when they make it yours. Hot potato that shit

[–] stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This must be the worst copied image ever. The mouse pointer is visible, the artists name it cut. Why not just show the whole picture like here https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-148723203/view ?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

At least most of the artist's name is still visible, I've seen a lot of comic posts that completely remove it.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who downvoted this is clueless.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I got the comic but I'm pretty clueless in general. I'm not totally sure what I'm meant to do in that case so I downvoted your comment to be safe.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Women who are assertive in the workplace are described as aggressive, bitches, things of that nature. Men who are assertive in the workplace are described as confident or having leadership skills, that sort of thing.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m confused, is this talking about the grillies or the kitchenettes?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now I need some answers, what's those terms??

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

The stereotype goes that men grill and women cook. “Grillies” looks like “girlies” at first glance, establishing subversion

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The joke is they both wore pajamas to work.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boomer humor/"everything I don't like is woke" humor

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I'd like to understand the joke / "joke", if there's anything to understand. It could be just "hurdur, I insulted them by saying gender because they're young" or maybe there really is some kind of reasoning.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What it seems like the "joke" is at:

If you are assertive but a man, wokes will call you aggressive. If you are assertive but a woman, wokes will applaud you.

Or so I understand the underlying logic, can be wrong ofc.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure the joke is the exact opposite, that the same behavior that's treated as assertive if a man does it is treated as aggressive coming from a woman.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That does sound like a right-winger 🤔 Best guess I've seen so far. Thanks.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's actually a comic strip by Judy Horacek from 1999 about how assertiveness in women is viewed as aggressive and discouraged, while it is encouraged in men

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Thanks. @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net really should've provided a source...

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Lol

So a man punching someone in the face is just assertive? Never knew that.