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[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

*Boo

(But having a book instead is always nice.)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I choose to believe it was meant as a warning, because GP is going to yeet a book at your head. But with a fair warning.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I always use “book” as an insult. Especially since my phone autocorrect was updated…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

which is bigger? TREE(3) vs

((...(1 room of stacked papers ) room of paper) room of paper)...)) room of paper

The number of brackets in above expression is, eh, ok, you got the idea.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Uranium generates that energy by fission. The hydrogen in sugar could generate huge amounts of energy if fused.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

And this boulder could generate huge amounts of energy if I pushed it up to the top of Mt. Kilimanjaro and let it roll down.

44 upvotes and 0 downvotes for a comment that doesn't understand that energy density measurements like this tend to measure the useful energy of a system.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How much more energy would you get if you fused uranium?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago

Using the rule of thumb, anything heavier than iron requires energy input to fuse. So you lose energy fusing uranium.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Serious answer: A huge negative amount. Anything above iron requires energy to fuse (which is why it produces energy from fission.) and I'm pretty sure nothing with 184 protons could be stable enough to count as being produced - the nuclei would be more smashed apart than merging at that point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Ask Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In alphabetical order.

Edit: oops, those are fission, my bad

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Those are fission. Fusion bombs don't fuse uranium. They use a fission bomb to fuse Lithium.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's disappointing that natural selection didn't figure out fusion.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

It figured out photosynthesis instead. Why do your own fusion when you can just take advantage of the fusion that's already happening?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, technically it already has.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's good it didn't, otherwise it's possible that all the hydrogen in the ocean would be fused into helium by now

Well, more likely it would significantly heat up earth due to the amount of energy released first, cooking everything/starting an endless cooking->extinction->cooling cycle

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Whilst I get your point, their point is still valid in the sense that you just can't extract that energy from gasoline in a more efficient manner than just burning it. For practical purposes, gasoline truly is that much less energy dense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

and all would generate the same if thrown to something capable of lossless e=mc^2 conversion (maybe a black hole)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

sadly black holes go to something like 42% conversion (source: some minute physics video i think)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For comparison:

  • Chemical combustion of uranium: ~4.7 MJ/kg
  • Nuclear fission of uranium-235: ~83.14 TJ/kg (or $ 83.14 \times 10^6 , \text{MJ/kg} $)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Do you have a Lemmy client that supports mathematical functions?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

In theory, yes. In practice, of those two only fission is currently viable.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If we could consume uranium, you could have a teaspoon's worth and be done with eating for the rest of your life.

[–] [email protected] 149 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think that's technically true regardless.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if that's actually factual or not. Uranium by itself isn't too terribly dangerous. It's the whole fission byproducts thing that's the buzz kill.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You would get heavy metal poisoning, same as if you ate a chunk of lead

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Also it depends on the isotope of uranium. Something you could find naturally isn't too dangerous, but something enriched too be used as fuel or for wepons is significantly more radioactive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Radioactivity inside your body is very bad bad

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bah, that graph needs antimatter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there enough paper on earth?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Antimatter doesn't really do anything by it's own, but if we let 1 kg react with 1 kg of matter (non-anti-matter), we get E = mc^2^ with m = 2 kg. So 1.8 * 10^17^ J, or 1.8 * 10^11^ MJ. If we assume that 10 MJ/kg is represented by about 1 cm, the bar would have to be 1.8 * 10^10^ cm or about 1.8 * 10^8^ m. A standard A4 piece of paper is about 30 cm tall, so 6.0 * 10^8^ A4 papers are needed. I.e. 600 million papers.

So we definitely have enough paper, but it would be a very tall stack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's only about 180,000km (~112,000 miles) or just under half way to the moon.

Also some quick googling says an average desktop printer can print about 30,000 pages per month, so it would take 20,000 months (~1670 years) to print that out. And a typical toner cartridge can print 3,000 pages and costs $80, so it would take 200,000 toner cartridges and cost $16 million.

Now, those aren't based on any specific model, just the first result in Google haha

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Incorrect, if you aren't a bitch about it. Fuse that gasoline!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I was thinking the same thing. It's unfair compare chemical energy to nuclear energy. Coal still kind of sucks, but the hydrogen in the others could definitely be used in fusion...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It is perfectly fair in the context of "fuel", a resource used to produce energy. Whether energy is generated via chemical or nuclear reaction is irrelavent in this case.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes boss, I did work out the dynamic range of that log amplifier we wanted to use in our next product's sensor PCB, it's 80dB.

The results are over here. (points to a roll of A-4 paper)

It has 40 data points and only took me 1 week, 10 pencils, and 20 erasers to plot the chart. Yeah I can present it, it'll take me 10 minutes to roll it out, pin it down, and fetch the A-frame ladder.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Weird thing I’ve noticed:

Logs are taught in high school. Absolutely no one seems to remember what they are after the unit test, much less high school. I’ve even reminded other math instructors about how to use them.

Why do people have such a hard time learning to use and understand logs?

I love this comic, and it’s going to replace my weird “let’s talk about how this makes the distance between us and Alpha Centauri, and us and Earendil easier to understand” bit.

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