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It's a funny show quote ... but very sad in this case. I hate the idea that there are MAGAts happily clapping because people are being deported into what are basically slave camps.
The Nuremberg style trials cannot get here quickly enough. Simply voting this political party out of office is not enough at this point.
Not just fascists, also those who empower fascists by sitting on their lazy ignorant smug asses on Election Day, bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe, who want some sort of collapse to happen... because they fancy themselves at the top of their imagined new "purity" food chain, I mean... look at their purity! Aren't they so special and so above it all?
They read things! On the internet! Wow!
They reject anything that doesn't fit their narrative. They LOVE having their hollow ego massaged in circlejerks and by bad-faith actors.
God forbid anything less than perfect and pure crosses their medieval path, lest they feel offended and... oh yeah, they do nothing. Which is why we're in this goddamned mess in the first place. They allowed racist, misogynistic fascism to take firm root, good luck weeding it out now.
Fascists are not empowered by political apathy. If that were the case, you'd be able to provide evidence that states or nations with low voter turnout always turn fascist. 80% of voters turned out in 1932 when the Nazis became the most powerful party. Political apathy can be a result of burgeoning fascism - among other things. How do you think fascism arose in Germany? People being lazy?
Chalking up fascism to poltical apathy is what happens when you fail to look at fascism as a function of class dynamics and class conflict - and furthermore, fail to see the generations-old pattern of regulatory agencies being captured, special interests dominating political commentary, rampant lobbying, decaying education, wages being suppressed, healthcare being denied, transportation services rendered useless, etc...
If, at the end of this devolution into fascism, your only takeaway is "Damn lazy tankies and russian spies destroyed America!", then you haven't learned your lesson, and you've fallen in perfect lockstep with your liberal forerunners who made the exact same mistakes.
It's telling that you folks never engage when leftists point out that when the democrats had a choice between slowing fascism and committing genocide on Palestinians, they chose to do genocide all for sweet AIPAC dollars.
The simple fact is that Biden's and Kamala's constituents wanted an end to genocide. Biden and Kamala ignored these constituents. Biden and Kamala lost. That couldn't be a more democratic outcome; it's more American than Apple pie. If you say "fuck you" to your constituents, it's a safe bet you'll lose them, and if this is a calculus that some dumb ass like me can make, you know that higher levels of democratic leadership were aware of the risks and chose to take them anyway. The democrats are controlled opposition.
If you are a liberal reading this thread and are starting to see holes pop up in the logic and reasoning of your colleagues, or have correctly identified that the liberals are ill-equipped to deal with this devolution, I'd encourage you to learn what Marxism really is - beyond the spark notes you got from your conservative history teacher in high school.
This was really shown when Cory Booker was shouting for 25 hrs about "This is not moral.. We fight corruption.. We dont have money for healthcare and education... We dont have money for our veterans " the next morning he passes $9Billion aid to Israel because AIPAC gave him $900,000
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/05/donh-a05.html
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Morality and corruption my ass. Cory Booker is a hypocrite spinless clown who does not stand for shit. You give him money and he will dance a circus just like he is paid to.
"I didn't vote for the lady who wouldn't commit to stopping Israel (but I knew wouldn't shred the economy)
even though the alternative was a man very openly supportive of Israel and is now actively deporting pro-Palestine protesters and providing Israel all the weapons it needs
'Cuz obviously both parties are the same"
Quite frankly, I have no respect for anyone who took this position. Whether influenced by propaganda or.. whatever.. I honestly don't know how you can say you didn't see what a threat Trump would be (not you personally), especially in retrospect.
I'm again going to push back and say that a massive propaganda campaign, similar to 2016, is what won them the election. Crypto dumped $146 million into he election. Elon personally put something like $250 million in, AND did the "raffles" to get people to vote (not raffles, it was a lie, admitted in court)... AND he openly used Twitter to influence the election. Zuck is in with the same guys that Musk is -- Thiel, etc (I say "in" loosely for Musk) and if you don't think they also used FB you're a fool.
But propaganda isn't an excuse, because it requires some lack of not intentionally trying to expose yourself to new & different sources of news, but more importantly, different perspectives. And a complete detachment or ignorance from Trump's first presidency.
MAGA was always a traitor party.
bOtH siDeS tHo!
So you didn’t vote for the “gEnOciDeR”, how’s that working out for you?
Take a look around at the paradise that your inaction has caused.
It's still shocking to me that people were stupid enough to believe that Jim Crow Joe would be a remedy for fascism in the first place.
It's doubly shocking to me that you've already forgot about Roe v Wade, most deportations in history (even more than now), building and expansion of prisons/cop cities, expanded drone strikes/kidnappings, start of multiple genocides, etc. and then feel entitled enough to be this fucking glib.
You have not been paying attention. If you believe in electoralism then stop punching down and redirect your rage at those who actually have power to change things within that system.
What’s shocking are all the fucking dipshits that think staying home and doing nothing at all is the best course of action to stop an anthropomorphic buttplug from overthrowing democracy.
And what’s more shocking, is that their smug entitlement is so strong that they refuse to acknowledge their fault in the shitshow that is going on around them.
For fuck’s sake! Even some of the conservatives have come forward to admit they fucked up! But no, rank and file of those ignorant little shithead protest voting assholes are still folding their arms and yet, have the audacity to blame people that fucking voted?
Shocking indeed.
And what’s more shocking, is that their smug entitlement is so strong that they refuse to acknowledge their fault in the shitshow that is going on around them.
Kamala won my state, you're just mad that people don't have the religious faith in voting and American 'democracy' that you do.
maybe try something other than blaming people to your left when the pathetic centrists lose to Republicans after insisting on doing a genocide. You might even be able to mentally move on from it and have some new ideas to share with everyone besides crying about 'tankies' (whoever you disagree with)
They allowed racist, misogynistic fascism to take firm root, good luck weeding it out now.
was that in the progressive era, when eugenics and fascism were the rage? the usa is fascist, and has been for all of living memory. blue-colored or red-colored isn't less fascism.
Both -parties- ARE equally terrible. They are all in on and define the bullshit system and both are 100% two halves of the same problem.
TRUMP is a different story though. For one thing he is no more a Republican than he is a Democrat he is there to do whatever he thinks is best for him and that is it. He makes any Democrat I have ever seen look amazing in comparison. I generally vote Independent and even swore years ago that I would never vote for a D or R again without some insane change to something and I do still refuse to support either shit ass party in general. Trump is a different story though, he made me vote for a Democrat for the first time in my life. Even the normal terrible D and R bullshit looks amazing when you are watching Trump destroy the country.
Note that there are good politicians who stand out from the actual party on both sides. I would vote for some if they made it to the election just for the fact that they have a cause and a vision to help people and even if I don't like the means it is sure a hell of a lot better than the current state of affairs.
"Not just fascists, but also those who oppose fascism and are trying to build an alternative to fascism" got it.
Remember that the admins of the Tankie Triad regularly post and brigade threads pushing their invalid ideology on other instances.
And they have a dozen or so alts ready to downvote dissent.
Tankies literally have to manipulate social media so people pay attention to them and control narratives or else they get laughed out of every room they enter.
Have you considered that there's just plenty of people who disagree with you?
Also, you lot suck at coming up with names, tankie troika is way more ominous
I don't think anyone cares. Nice two pages of ban history.
They care enough to whine nonstop about it every chance they get lmao
Nice two pages of ban history.
What can I say I'm a celebrity
I bet I could harvest bags of salt from a "look how sassy i am" terminally online account like this, but some of us have better things to do than just make other people mad for attention. Have a good one out there. Hope you don't get banned from everywhere.
Hope you don’t get banned from everywhere.
terminally online account
I'm actually terminally offline; my most recent ban was for suggesting the 196ers not act like overly-online sectarian weirdos if they want to have lasting positive interactions with people IRL
Uh huh yea and the admins of .ml definitely recognize that and welcome all opinions! Oh wait, no they don't:
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
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Open admission to editing headlines for posting and admin knows and does nothing (shocker)
[email protected] everyone and see for yourself the crap they pull
Hexbear is the one that mostly ""brigades"".
The only reason this happens is because they can't downvote. So they comment instead.
Davel is a .ml mod
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I rarely see any mass comments from people in ml. In political topics, it's mostly barely a handfull of the same users. Plus, political topics often get pushed to the front pages, so it's not unlikely that the users see it themselves, whether or not Davel posted the thread in question.
I literally have no idea how many down votes I've gotten. I do kinda miss seeing bad people get down voted, but I find this experience much more pleasant.
If you wanna get the down vote experience, just change to a instance that shows them.
I dont! But thanks for the advice :3
If you haven’t been called a “Russian bot,” you’re not really challenging western imperialism yet.
Just wait until you feel the incredible feel of having one of them DM you calling you the N-word, threatening to "punch you in your N***** face" and then you use an IP tracker to find they're using an Belorussian IP.
I've been running off that accomplishment for some time.
Down votes are so meaningless. New browsers think they control the world.
On the contrary; they let me know when I hit a nerve. When fascists tell you what pisses them off, that's where you press.
It's a great feeling
This place is a giant circle jerk. I mean, who's going to actually mass downvote a mainstream approved opinion in a heavily moderated and biased forum LMAO 🤣
Only thing that comes to mind is actually dissenting non approved opinions getting mass downvoted if not thoroughly silenced and banned
Or ideological adjacent splitters casually/competitively infighting.
A ton of times it's the hivemind. Posted a picture of a truck with a Nazi emblem(half panzer division skull and an SS logo) on my local sub. And at first it went up then someone said it was 75th ranger emblem. Hivemind bought it up without even so much as a quick Google search. And heavily ratio'd me. People are just stupid.
When people call me a tankie ☺️
I love how people just spew nonsense they know nothing about. It’s validating knowing I pissed them off lmfao 😇
Imagine worrying about downvotes, I love getting notified when my haters had to read my political opinions
Hey look the thing I come to lemmy for: casual misogyny memes
LMAO everything you don't like is some flavor of bigotry or misogyny, it's literally your MO now lolol
Man, I wish I had that much social confidence instead of feeling bad while I kept replying.