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End of 10 - Campaign to upgrade Windows 10 PCs to Linux (endof10.org)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My grandma once complained about something wrong with her web browser. She had a generic install of Windows, so was using Internet explorer. I told her she should use Firefox (my cousin was there, and agreed) so she told us to change it.

Installed Firefox, deleted desktop icon of Internet explorer, added desktop icon for Firefox. My grandma couldn't understand why the little picture was different, didn't know what to do to get to Facebook, and told us to fix it so it worked again.

So my cousin changed the icon from Firefox to internet explorer. Problem solved.

Linux is a good idea in theory, but someone really needs to put the work in to make it look and work as close as humanly possible to Windows. I don't have time or patience to be 24-7 tech support for everyone in my family over 60.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

counterpoint, i switched my very untechnical mother over to mint and said "it's a new system, i can show you basic stuff but you should take some time to explore it".

that was 10 years ago, and i never get support requests any more. she hasn't magically become technical, she just learned how to do the most basic things again. the difference is that nothing breaks on its own now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I saw this recently and sent it to some folks as a joke (been trying to get them to switch) They did seem more receptive to it, though. https://gitgud.io/wackyideas/aerothemeplasma/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That's awesome, and probably infuriating to Linux purists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Want windows - use windows, wtf is all this cringe about making windows-clone-over-linux-kernel

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a thread about replacing Windows with Linux on older computers, this is possibly the dumbest question you could have come up with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol. Replacing windows with linux, and for that you want... windows UI with linux kernel. This is so convoluted I repeat my question: what the fuck is this cringe?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you are unable to give reasons for your actions and attitudes. Have a nice day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Don't make me tap the sign.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I love the idea but not the messaging. Older folks & non-nerd people - a vast majority of the demographic of people who would benefit from this campaign, if I had to guess - aren't going to want Linux or "fresh new software". They want a computer with a web browser, an Office suite, and an OS/layout that functions exactly the way they expect it to.

If you tout so much change, they're going to lose interest. I'd argue they'd lose interest seeing technical words like "software", since all they know on phones and computers are "apps".

However, If you instead show them side-by-side how they can do the exact same tasks with nearly identical steps and also emphasize the benefits like cost effectiveness and speed... they'll just say "okay great, can you do it for me?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tbh chromebooks are amazing as a concept for people like this. Barring proprietary junk like adobe, if they need more than that, they should be able to develop the skills to do basic things in linux without too much difficulty. Likely wont even need to touch any command line stuff.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If it helps you could probably update your title to End of 10 - Campaign to upgrade Windows 10 PCs to Linux. At the moment it's a bit tricky to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Done ✅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Linux will never catch on to the home users. It's a schizophrenic system. The difference between Debian, Arch, and Fedora, is like saying Windows 7 programs can not be installed on Windows 10, nobody will ever talk about Windows 10.

People want to be able to download programs from websites, double click and install it. The whole "distribution" thing is stupid and is a wall blocking mass adoption. There's people that only know how to use Adobe programs. People want brand name programs, not alternatives.

I use OpenBSD and FrerBSD, I'm setting up a BSD router, but for gaming, that is all exclusively on Windoes.

One tip if you truly want people you know to install Linux, learn how to do all of the configuration and maintaintence through SSH. If you are available at anytime to SSH and look at something, that would open up a few people willing to try. For example if someone calls you and says they want a program,you SSH in, type the command to install the program, and tell them it will be listed in the menu in a minute when it's dine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

people want to be able to download programs from websites

I think a little thing called the iPhone App Store and the multi-billion dollar industry it spawned very much disagrees with you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

People want to be able to download programs from websites, double click and install

No, they learned that at some point and are now dead-stuck in this. So let them, for fuck's sake