Before even opening the article I knew it would be England. Fucking TERF Island.
What's terf
Trans exclusionary radical feminist
What the fuck is that
they don't consider Trans women to be women. basically
Lacks nuance.
They believe that allowing trans women to identify as women reduces womanhood to meaninglessness.
IOW: they found a way to be the victim in a situation where a tiny subset of the population faces massive challenges merely trying to exist.
Women are at an unfair advantage when competing against men in fishing. History has shown that men almost always report larger than actual fish size. The discrepency is more pronounced the smaller the fish is. This bias in measurement has drifted over to penis size as well.
Both accurately described as 'a wriggler'
It would be funnier to leave the last part implied.
I never knew organized animal torture was a gendered pastime
When you put it that way it sounds significantly cooler
TERFs are the feminist equivalent of "fuck you, I've got mine". People that didn't have to go through the struggles of inclusion now excluding others.
Why is there an issue with 'trans' but not 'women's'? If they're going to divide up (exclude) sexes, perhaps make a 'trans' competition too.
Seriously. Do they think men have an advantage over women because it's normal for a dad to take his son fishing growing up? I really can't think of any other reason.
Women's sport is not necessarily about having a physical advantage. It can be the case that the sport is simply male dominated and then, especially when there's no physical reason, women may feel like it should be advertised to girls more. And that's what then leads them to organize women-only championships.
Exactly, which is why e-sports sometimes have women's tournaments. Genders play no role here but it's a male dominated sport
Well yeah, thats pretty much it. The womens team is there to get more women in fishing. Sure, a dad might take his daughter to the lake to fish and the deer lease to hunt a few times, but its not as common as a dad taking his son.
I’ve been noticing a lot of female teams have been complaining about trans people competing with them, does anyone know what their problem is?
Trans exclusive radical feminism
A lot of it comes down to the perception of privilege. A lot of people believe that trans women basically have all of the privileges inherent to being an able-bodied cis man so their assumption of participation in a female centric space is to weild their privilege to unfair advantage....
However women's sport leagues fall into different reasons for existing. For some it is because of a perceived difference of physiology... In which case the issue is what original puberty the athlete went through. Technically if an athlete transitions early and never goes through male puberty at all you basically remove that issue.... But then people start being incensed that someone transitioned at 16 with the a-okay of an entire team of doctors, social workers, therapists and the blessings of the legal guardians. It is easier for them to just assume that there is no solution that allows fair inclusion on this front.
Or
The second type of league exists to combat a systematic rejection of women through treating them as novelties or inferiors. Nobody generally wants to do something for fulfillment, bragging rights or fun if it requires them to wade through being treated like a second class citizen. The exclusion of trans women from these communities assume that trans women do not experience the same forces of misogyny that drive cis women from sport and assumes trans women can just re-don all of their male privileges whenever they feel like... Something that doesn't really happen. From personal experience within the community trans women are often REALLY vulnerable to misogyny. They just freeze up and have no idea how to deal with it. They didn't get a training period where elder women assumed they were inexperienced and helped them learn how to deal or strategies how to stay safe or safe places to retreat to where they could find solidarity. A lot of them just stumble into danger with a lot of cis women just leaving them out to dry thinking they are innately strong enough to deal. The exclusion of trans women from these spaces takes a rather callous vein of every one removing all forms of solidarity from all sides of sport. The trans woman looking for a place to do something they are extremely passionate and talented in basically is told that she can either put up with being thrown into the misogyny heavy lions den and treated by all sides as novelty, a reason others can point to to discredit the rest of the needs of the trans community or just as a man (something that for a trans person causes a cascade of negative mental health effects) or she can disappear from the sport entirely...ignoring that similar situations are what caused a segregated woman's league to be established in the first place.
The first assumes male privilege of body fat and muscle distribution. The second assumes an intrinsic male social privilege remains relevant. A lot of people want to assert that a loss of male privilege isn't possible. It's just someone with it trying to angle for an unfair advantage rather than someone who just needs the solidarity of other people who lack privilege in a similar way they do.
OK, I may be wrong on this one, and I may have my inbox murdered for this, but I am on the fence here. No, not because I feel the trans woman has any advantages over the other women, but in a sport like fishing, or even esports, there are women's leagues because the men dominate the current participation rosters, have better sponsors and training and equipment and therefore make it exclusionary to women. Having a women's league promotes being more inclusive in the sport and creating a level (not fair, level) playing field for those who would typically not get the opportunity to compete.
I know this is further complicated by the fact that trans people are even more marginalized than women, and should therefore have more encouragement to participate in these competitions.
My view is that I would let the trans woman participate, I just also get the fact that some people may have reasonable feelings relating to why they feel this kind of thing does a disservice to them. But then there are other people who are just discriminatory assholes. I get that too.