“Let’s nominate someone indicted for fraud. That doesn’t make me look suspicious at all.”
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TL;DR: I think it's a play to help Trump (if that's even possible) at taxpayer expense.
Another way to look at it, is that she and the Freedom Caucus are trying to make it impossible to fill the speaker position. Last time took 15 tries over 4 days. We have a pro-tempore speaker, but legislation will take a back seat to filling the Gavelmeister (I mean speaker).
This data is from Sept. 20 https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/politics/mccarthy-house-speaker-vote-margin-numbers-dg/index.html
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31 far-right Republicans who have repeatedly voted against McCarthy
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18 moderate Republicans in districts Biden won in 2020
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172 other Republicans
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212 Democrats
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2 vacancies
That's 435 seats (2 vacant). From 2001 to 2021, the Senate spent an average of 164 days in session each year, and the House spent an average of 149 days in session (source https://ballotpedia.org/117th_Congress_legislative_calendar). The annual salary of a rank-and-file Member of Congress is $174,000 (source: https://www.congressionalinstitute.org/2019/02/21/how-much-do-members-of-congress-get-paid-2/)
So each day of this clusterbuck, each member of congress is getting just over $1,167. Multiply that by 433 (the number of filled seats in Congress) and we spend $505,651 or half-a-million dollars each day for congress to twiddle their thumbs. It cost the US taxpayer more than 2 million dollars to elect McCarthy, and now we're going to pay to find a replacement.
While the republicans have the majority, it is fractured by extremists and moderates. The democrats won't vote for an extremist republican, so most likely 212 (Dem) + 18 moderates = 230 Nay, even if 172 others + 31 extremists say yea, the vote fails. But if the 31 extremists say nay to a moderate, it's going to take democrats reaching across the aisle, and then Gaetz plays the ouster card again.
We have a continuation resolution to keep the Government going for 45 days, or until Nov. 14. If The Freedom Caucus keeps the speaker position churning, the government may shut down because they are too busy playing "who gets the gavel?". The far right is pushing to cut funding for the F.B.I. and the Justice Department (source https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/us/politics/trump-house-budget-fbi-republicans.html) because this could help save Trump. But even if they got what they wanted now, I don't see New York stopping their trial, and I don't see Georgia just rolling over. Trump's bacon is being held to the fire. All the Freedom Caucus is doing is creating Chaos. I could hope their supporters would see this as an expensive Hail Mary, but I doubt it; they will probably get re-elected and this circus will continue.
Moderate Republicans can obviously completely avoid Gaetz's and Greene's bullshit if they commit to consistently working across the aisle.
The House GOP saying that working with Democrats is career ending is what gives the Freedom Caucus its power to hold the GOP hostage.
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The GOP is just fucking crazy and a danger to this country.
And they still get ~45% of the vote.
The States need a lot of fixes.
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So their two best candidates are a, multiple court case proven conman, and the man who protected a high profile pedophile for years? The US is doing really well at the moment.
Trump can't be Speaker for five reasons:
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Endangered Republicans from Biden districts won't vote for him, or they're doomed
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He has no understanding of House rules or procedures
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He's going to be spending most days in court, losing his businesses and facing felony jail time.
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Being speaker involves forming coalitions with other people
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Too much work
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These psychopaths want him as close to the top of the line of successions as possible.
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The Speakership is a real job, as in, it requires A LOT of work. You can't just give a press conference, watch yourself on TV, and sign executive orders.
With that in mind, I also support Trump for Speaker of the House. It'll be fucking hilarious at how ungodly terrible it will go. I give him 1 week before he makes up a story about how CIA DNC FBI deep state is trying to kill him, so he has to flee to Mara Lago.
If Trump gets speaker of the house some morons will try to assassinate the president and vice president to make him regain the presidency.
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I mean, being President should be a real job too, but that kind of ended in 2001 when we hired a moron. Obama would have done the job if the GOP had let him, instead of being so obsessed with his ethnicity.
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Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to be President if the Pres and VP are KIA / MIA.
I absolutely believe MAGA (and likely backed by foreign intelligence) would make a play at assassinating the President if Trump was in a speaker role. They were looking to hang people on Jan 6th...
You also have to, like, be an elected official of the House, so this is mostly MTG saying bullshit to retain the spotlight or deflect from dumb shit that Trump did, like getting slammed with a gag order. (Edit: I guess you don't need to be in Congress. Go figure.)
All this says to me, is that they have a plan to kill Biden and Harris
Cause thats the only way Trump would accept Speaker position, since Speaker is second after Harris in Succession.
Yeah its pretty disturbing that they are even floating this idea, and its all to appease the insane conspiracy freaks
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It will just further their stupid narrative that everything happening against Trump is “politically motivated”, so they want to raise him up to speaker as another way to help shield him from criminal charges. “You can’t charge a sitting Speaker of the House with a crime,” or some shit is what they’ll say. Or they’ll try to impeach/remove both Biden and Harris as a way to install Trump as President outside of an election.
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Is Putin her second choice?
Considering he has his dick in all their asses, I think he's pushing #2.
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They are going to try to make a chancellorship for Trump like they did to Hitler.
When is he supposed to have time for this between campaigning and being The Defendant?
I was saying that to my wife. How can he be Speaker and on trial at the same time? It's not like they can just put the trials aside.
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Gonna be hard to do that from prison
that's the hail mary play - he become speaker, incites enough stochastic terrorism that someone tries to kill biden and harris, then he can pardon himself from any irritating details like past crimes he's been convicted for.
it's absolutely bonkers, but why else would Mungery Howler Greed want to install him there? fucking nutbags
They really need to put her back into the glacier they thawed her out of.
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Every day this clown is in office is just adding to the embarrassment of the republikkkan party. I'd love to hear from a republican (non russian asset) hat legitimately supports her. When you find this guy, notify the FBI because they're a problem.
Lol if she thinks Trump is going to show up and do that job daily, I have stock in Trump NY real estate to sale her
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Wasn't this one of the plans floated back in early 2021 as a way to get Trump the presidency? Or maybe I'm confusing it with a plan to re-instate Trump if he were impeached?
The Speaker is 3rd in line for the presidency. Granted, it would still be incredibly difficult to get from there to the presidency, but I'm not accusing the MAGA crowd of having good ideas.
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Good luck getting him to show up to work. He's the laziest person in the US.
I’m so tired of this clown show where they actively support this criminal. A criminal who will pardon them for their as-yet-to-be-done crimes while shitting on them.
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Nutjob fascist backs fellow nut job fascist z z Z
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