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Zionism has been doing ethnic cleansing for over 76 years
So no better than Hamas, or Nazis, or the Taliban, or any other organisation that uses violence as a means of political expression.
Wtf? Stop comparing the violence of Colonialism to the anti-colonial violence that exists only as a resistance to that occupation and Colonialism.
The violence of the anti-colonialism is done as a last resort to resist the unimaginable amount of violence the occupiers do on a daily fucking basis.
How fucking gross to compare Hamas, which only exists because of the Israeli Apartheid, with the fucking Nazis. While Israel is litterally doing a fucking genocide in Gaza as we speak, and has been for over 18 fucking months. Not to mention the blockade and 'mowing the lawn' which are some of the most brutal aspects of the apartheid that's been happening in the occupied territories since 1967.
JFC, what your doing is akin to both-sidesing the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Have a shred of humanity. Anti-colonialist doesn't come out of fucking nowhere and is completely fucking different than the fascism of Colonialism.
Hamas exists as it is today because it has been sponsored by Israel, while other, non religious extremist Palestinian parties/organisations were sabotaged by Israël. It was a clear choice to have an agressive and unreasonable opponent rather than a diplomatic partner that could be worked with towards a peaceful solution. Hamas is very much a creature of the Zionist Israeli politicians and has consistently worked against the interest of the Palestinian population to give Israel excuses to do what they do. Hamas is not worthy of your support, the Palestinian population who is caught up between all this, very much is.
What Fanon implored us to do was to view the struggle of the oppressed as a struggle to create a new mode of being, a new form of humanity. Within the revolutionary struggles of the masses, he insisted, lie the seeds of a new humanity. The ongoing resistance in Palestine today is not a new phenomenon, but is rather the latest episode in a decades’ long struggle for freedom and what Hegel and Fanon both agree on, recognition. Not recognition to live within shrivelled little cantons and drip-fed subsistence, but recognition as a human being in the holistic sense of the term. The stone throwing, the stabbings and the bombings are a reaction to a colonial regime which denies this recognition.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20151019-palestine-through-the-lens-of-frantz-fanon/
I'm well aware that Israel has propped up Hamas for their own ends. It was both to divide the leadership between the West Bank and Gaza and justify it's violence against a civilian population in the eyes of Western Nations as 'fighting terrorism,' which works due to the decades of Islamphobia and hasbara in Western Nations. That does not change the dynamic, whoever funds hamas does not change what their decisions or aims are. It's not sabotage, it's blowback.
Hamas is not controlled under Israel, unlike the PA. Who's police force works at the behest of Israel as an arm of the occupation, cracking down on resistance against any violent settler colonialism taking place.
Hamas on the other hand, is a legitimate resistance group against a colonial occupying force that has been committing genocide for over a year, and a brutal blockade and occupation for generations. The goals of Hamas is to end the occupation, now genocide, and for liberation against Zionism. I certainly don't agree with all the violent actions Hamas has taken, but I also don't live in Gaza. The median age is 18, compared to 30 is Israel or 40 in European countries, all with experience living under Israeli violence.
Hamas is one of the many Palestinian resistance organizations that has existed under Zionist colonialism, and currently the most prominent. I support Palestinian resistance unconditionally, regardless of what form that takes.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
- Martin Luther King Jr. 1963
It wasn't sponsored by israel, israel only allowed qatari money to go to gaza. Israel always had full control of money flow. The money goes to the palestinian autority also is approved by israel. Hell even humanitarian aid can only enter of Israel accepted. But you won't critisize PA because they are collaborating with the occupation and does nothing against the settlers armed by the terrorist state of israel
Who started the war on October 7th? Hamas the terrorists, and now the Israeli terrorist government is acting even more atrociously. There is no difference between them, they're both violent despotic parties.
No one, the war didn't start on October 7th it started more than 50 years ago.
The existence of Hamas, and any armed resistance movement, is directly due to the decades of violence experienced daily under the permanent occupation, the Apartheid State, of Israel. It's impossible to understand their existence if you don't understand the lived experience and material conditions they are forced to live under. There is no such thing as a perfect victim when it comes to anti-Colonialist resistance, not for the Vietcong, the IRA, or the ANC either. Can you condemn the violence of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in the same way as the violence of the Warsaw Ghetto?
In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video
Adi Callai has also done a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history, as well as an analysis of Franz Fanon and Identity Politics in the context of Colonialism and Anti-colonialism.
Who came from europe to force a state on local population? Who mass diplaced hundred of thousands of paleatinian? Who occupied who?
Would you say the british empire and indian resistance was equally bad when nana sahib promised safety to british soldiers and civilians and ended up massacring them?
The Nazis are the only apt comparison in your list. Like Israel they invaded foreign lands to ethnically cleanse and colonize them.
Both Hamas and the Taliban only defended their homeland against a foreign invaders and did not invade foreign lands.
Oh, so genocide is 'self defense.' No, fuck off with that Zionist bullshit
Ethnic Cleansing is fundamental to Zionism
Zionism’s aims in Palestine, its deeply-held conviction that the Land of Israel belonged exclusively to the Jewish people as a whole, and the idea of Palestine’s “civilizational barrenness" or “emptiness” against the background of European imperialist ideologies all converged in the logical conclusion that the native population should make way for thenewcomers.
The idea that the Palestinian Arabs must find a place for themselves elsewhere was articulated early on. Indeed, the founder of the movement, Theodor Herzl, provided an early reference to transfer even before he formally outlined his theory of Zionist rebirth in his Judenstat.
An 1895 entry in his diary provides in embryonic form many of the elements that were to be demonstrated repeatedly in the Zionist quest for solutions to the “Arab problem ”-the idea of dealing with state governments over the heads of the indigenous population, Jewish acquisition of property that would be inalienable, “Hebrew Land" and “Hebrew Labor,” and the removal of the native population.
Settlements and Occupation
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets 'Transferred' to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
- The Transfer Committee, and the JNF Ethnic Cleansing, which led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate before the Nakba
The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.
Apartheid Evidence
B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Historian Works on the History
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Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History - Nur Masalha
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The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
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A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
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The Hundred Years' War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi
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The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
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The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
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The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
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The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
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10 Myths About Israel - Ilan Pappe (summery)
Arab and Muslim welcomed jews many time like the ottoman accepted many jews following the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492. During the first Eliyah Arab businesses let jews from Yemen to work for them, Arabs and jews was also going to each other festivals. Things got bad when Zionists exposed the plan to force a state on local people
While it was wrong and a terrible idea, Arab countries kicking out jews from them countries was a response to Zionists mass displacing hundred thousands of people
When some politicians side with Nazis other sided with British and fought Nazi Germany
Israel occupied Gaza and the west bank in 67, Israel definitely started that war by the admission of the former prime minister Menachem Begin
The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him
Don't colonize people and expect the colonized to not retaliate. It's the only solution to the conflict
to say that some politicians sided with the british/allies is to completely sweep under the rug how massively one sided arab support was, and honestly, remains to this day, in favor of the nazis.
you need go no further in your explanation, because that right there, shows me you are not debating in good faith.
I will add though, the Jews that were in the region prior to 1948, were there legally. They did not steal their land. It was obtained legally and not through forceful colonization. But there is a long ass history of violence and hate toward jews, well before 1948... and really long even before the 1900s. The jews had to pay a special tax just for being jewish in the ottoman empire. In 1937 the arabs were offered the clear majority of the region -- they rejected it because they simply did not want jews in the region. Period. They wanted all of the land. After that, they allied themselves with the nazis. In 1948 they were offered 45% of the land, and damn thats fucking generous considering they had just allied themselves with hitler.
And if there are any questions as to why the jews wanted their own state, look up stuff like the Hebron Massacre, or the Nebi Musa riots. In 1947 there were many instances of violence targeting jews. Violence toward jews was widespread and intense in the region. The war of independence was a reaction to this.
Jordan sided with the allies , Egypt sided with the allies ,Iraq sided with the allies expect a very short time where Rashid Ali al-Gaylani took control, all the Arab speaking countries except Libya sided with the allies. 12k to 19k Palestinians volunteered to fight the Nazis while there is no data about Palestinians soldiers siding with the axis.
Get your evil propaganda out of lemmy
Your aljazeera source with hamas sourced numbers is the misinfo.
Hamas is not only its armed wing. It is the entire government in Gaza. Its numbers have historically been considered reliable by the United Nations, the World Health Organization, and Human Rights Watch. In relation to the Gaza war, two letters published in The Lancet journal did not find evidence of inflation or fabrication of Palestinian casualty numbers. There is no reason to cast doubt on their estimates than to deny that Israel is committing a genocide.
Andrew Fox is a research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society. He served for 16 years in the British Army, leaving the Parachute Regiment with the rank of Major. He completed 3 tours in Afghanistan including one attached to US Army Special Forces, as well as further tours of Bosnia, Northern Ireland and the Middle East.
The Henry Jackson Society is a trans-Atlantic foreign policy and national security think tank, based in the United Kingdom. While describing itself as non- partisan, its outlook has been described variously as right-wing, neoliberal, and neoconservative.
This is your source?? A fucking British soldier that has made a living occupying Ireland and running around shooting at Arabs????? Writing at the behest of a right wing think tank??????????
The rest of this is racist Zionist slop that I shouldn't even justify with a response, because even if it was a completely honest portrayal it would not justify genocide, but to start; Palestinians cannot be held responsible for actions that other arab nations took after 1948 (in response to the horrific acts committed during the nakba, but that nonetheless does not justify it) or the antisemitism that was in large part purposefully fomented in those nations by Israel to advance the Zionist mission. The intention of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine has been made clear since Zionism first emerged in the late 19th century. The mass transfer of Jews to historic palestine and the ensuing displacement of Palestinians started before even 1933, which is when the Haavara agreement was signed between Nazis and Zionist collaborators. It has never been about "self defense" and that is a fucking shameful way to justify the violent expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their home land.
You have an agenda and no amount of logic will ever change it.
Back at you.
Get the fuck out of here you disgusting fucking Zionist.
What’s ridiculous is that they still play victim when they’re now the genocidal maniacs
Well, I think that's always the case when this kind of thing is done. That part isn't ironic, but it is frustrating and, yes, ridiculous.
Read: Israel has cleared over 77% of Gaza of Gazans.