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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (85 children)

This is so sinophobic! Dont you know that never happened and if it did it was because of America and capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't believe the mods and admins allow such a racist meme to stay up.

Ralph being yellow while talking about the Chinese with the red seats is more than just a dog whistle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I do think that you'll eventually be held up there with the likes of Ken M. for your contributions to the art of classical trolling.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

.world lemmitors living in western countries on the verge of fascism really be shaking to post anticommunist CIA propaganda on their favourite day of the year

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tankies unable to fathom that you can be critical of both fascism and the authoritarian state capitalism which is China.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Being critical of the communist state which relieved 800 million people from extreme poverty over the suppression of a western-sponsored color revolution while fascism disintegrates the EU and US, from the comfort of the armchairs in their Muslim genocide supporting nations

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Now tally up all the people in capitalist countries who were "relieved from extreme poverty" during their industrialisation period. And did so without causing massive famines because they had a wierd hate-boner for sparrows.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

capitalist countries who were "relieved from extreme poverty" during their industrialisation period

Uh... Have you opened a book in your life at any point? Have you ever heard of these things called "British Empire", "Portuguese Empire", "Spanish Empire", "Colonial Africa", or "British Raj"? How about child labour in Britain during industrial development? Bengal famine, Irish potato famine, genocide of Latin Americas, slave trade... The list of actually enforced hunger and genocide is absolutely endless, and much more harrowing than the consequence of (admittedly disastrous) uninformed ecological policy in the mid-20th century.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (17 children)

God you're so fucking stupid.

The point is industrialisation is what lifts people out of poverty. You pointing out imperialism is bad doesn't change that, does it?

Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe or Chinese manufactured famines and child labour?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Don't argue with tankies. Making fun of them is very much enough.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

800 million out of extreme poverty

Funny how extreme poverty starts racing down as soon as China adopted capitalist market reforms.

color revolution

If the massacre in Tiananmen Square was a "western color revolution", why is China covering it up still? Cuba doesn't cover up the Bay of Pigs, they celebrate it as a W. It's almost like it was a protest against a dictatorship that was brutally suppressed, as dictatorships do.

Muslim genocide supporting nations

Like what's going on in Xinjiang? Israel and China are hand in hand when it comes to ethnic cleansing.

50 cents just isn't enough to buy good posts nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Funny how extreme poverty starts racing down as soon as China adopted capitalist market reforms

Extreme poverty was already racing down in the times of Mao before Dengism, life expectancy in China rose some 25 years under Mao. What part of "attracting foreign investment increases the material wealth of the country when done under communist rule" seems funny to you? Is that some sort of gotcha against communists? Because it's literally the Marxist strategy of Dengism, outlined clearly and not hiding anything.

why is China covering it up

China isn't "covering up" the Tiananmen revolts, it's preventing the fabricated set of lies by western media to harm its country, and it's doing this successfully. China has historically been less developed than western countries due to late industrialisation and being a victim of colonialism and imperialism, and weaker countries need to apply state power to prevent foreign interference, as the Zapatistas had to learn during their struggle. As China strengthens and the West debilitates, China is capable of opening up and controlling its narrative with more soft power, and the West needs to crack down against journalistic freedom. We see this in the US with the banning of TikTok, and in the EU with the banning of Russian media.

Like what's going on in Xinjiang?

It's been five years that you libs have been propagating this misinformation about Xinjiang and there's still not a fucking shred of evidence. The education centres were closed years ago, the counter-terrorism campaign in Xinjiang was ssuccessful, and Xinjiang is not only developing, it's doing so at an impressively fast rate, and recently the Uyghur became the majority ethnicity in the region. You can literally go into your phone and look up how many Palestinian children have been slaughtered this past week by Israel with video evidence of pretty much every single case, yet in China, a country where pretty much every single citizen owns a smartphone and VPN use isn't persecuted (personally been in China and used VPNs to bypass the Great Firewall without issues), there isn't a single picture or video evidence of abuse of authority against Uyghur.

When in 5-10 years it becomes common knowledge that the Uyghur "genocide" was a western fabrication, remember that communists somehow always knew, and reevaluate whether you're just a propagandised cog in the machine. Everyone also "knew" about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and believed Nayirah's testimony in congress.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is why I find this stuff so bewildering, even Wikipedia says no one died in the square. It was hectic around Mudixi, with buses of soldiers being torched and the burnted bodies being strung up. People there were absolutely shot at and killed.

It was an insane week with a lot happening, many different groups with their own motives, and so many details unclear. It's weird that anti China rhetoric insists on something that didn't happen, pushing a false narrative that's so easy to dispell and distracts from the real violence and politics of the time.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For me wikipedia says that at least a few hundred died, can you show me where wikipedia said no one died?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The point is that according to basically all reputable sources, they didnt die on Tiananmen Square. They were ordered to leave the Square and did so. Then they were killed at other points in the city.

But of course, since the protests were on the Square and then the killings happened, most people simply condense it down to the inaccurate version of "killed at the square".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The massacre in the vicinity of, but not directly on Tiananmen Square" doesn't have the same ring to it. The concrete location might also not matter that much in the grand scheme of things

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, it does matter as far as lots of people who only have passing knowledge about it will believe that it was at Tiananmen Square, that the guy in the famous photo was run over by tanks etc.

And that makes it easy for the CCP to go "you are all falling for propaganda, that did not happen, look how good we are in not killing these protesters"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

But they would also say that in response to a 100% accurate retelling.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

While I agree that it is not known and a bit inaccurate, saying that it’s the Tiananmen Square massacre is a relatively harmless simplification, as there were dead people nearby and they originally were there.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finally, a meme I can post on grad

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The official report back to the Uk government was even worse than the sanitised stuff we got on TV. Even the Chinese government don't know how many were killed.

https://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2020-0353/FCO_21_4200.pdf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

This shit is an heavy read... I profoundly dislike it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Doesn't the United States do a similar thing in weaponizing the police against its own citizens? U.S. police violence against protesters, police killings of black and brown people, police killing of mentally ill people. Using military surplus weapons from Iraq and war tactics against its own citizens (LRAD weapons, mass arrests, tear gas).(Kent State Shooting, Civil Rights Movement, George Floyd protests, Occupy Wall Street, Palestine protests).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah but they don't actively try to wipe it out of history and build a big firewall

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not yet. The wiping things out of history move already has begun, when the regime started removing „DEI“ people from government sources. Maybe much before that, when they started banning books on a state level.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

When Kent State happened, surveys showed an overwhelming majority of Americans blamed the students for getting shot more than they blamed the guard for shooting them. There were all sorts of fake news stories going around on TV about how the protests were filled with outside agitators doing things like putting LSD in the water supply. It was only once the opportunity for a reaction was safely past that they said, "Oopsie, we made a mistake." There have been many other cases where the government and media lied until it determined it was safe enough to tell the truth, including the justifications for several major wars.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jk, that shit happens, but when it does it becomes massive news stories instead of being suppressed, and it is allowed to have ripple effects across politics and society instead of the government imprisoning anyone who mentions abuses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

but when it does it becomes massive news stories instead of being suppressed, and it is allowed to have ripple effects across politics and society instead of the government imprisoning anyone who mentions abuses.

To be fair, someone else replied to mention the Tulsa Race Massacre... Something that I (and every American I've spoken to about it) did not know existed prior to seeing the Watchmen TV series.

So...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not even comparable. Scroll up to the top and read the report from the British Government and then tell me that they're the same.

Or is there an event in US history I wasn't aware of where our military literally liquidized student protestors and swept the resulting sludge into storm drains?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Most people were killed when the tanks were on their way towards the square and not in it. So the student would have technically already been dead before it reached Tiananman

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"the same number of violent deaths as on any random weekend in the United States."

Use critical thinking here. Even if this is the number, it is equating the violent deaths at a single location to the total number of violent deaths in the entire United States over a weekend. This one little tidbit lets you know of the angle of the article and the misinformation it tries to hide in plain sight.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I looked down at the comments.. not surprised. :p

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why don't you ask the kids at Tiananmen square?

Was ~~fashion~~ nothing the reason why they were there?

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