Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world's 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.
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Texas will be so pissed. They're threatening to do it for centuries but can't pull it off.
Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven't gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.
If California stopped paying taxes, most of the south would be screwed.
#truth, States like Alabama would have to shut down in about a month 😂
Also, it was the conservatives who helped weaken unions by making dues optional but forcing the union to represent non-payers anyways. Sounds perfect here. California can just stop paying, but get the protection and benefits of a tax paying state.
Plus, conservatives would absolutely fucking love this if it was Texas threatening not to pay taxes if their money goes to doctors who preform abortions or some other equally absurd shit.
Since we have allowed the Presidency to become a joke why not our whole nation. /S
In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
As I understand, this is not a thing the regular Armed Forces can do, correct? I thought that only the National Guard could conduct non-training operations on US soil and/or against US citizens, barring an invasion or secession. Does anyone know more than me about this?
Yes. Out of the federal military branches, only the coast guard can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
Noem tried to peddle habeas corpus, a legal principle with centuries of legal tradition, as Trump's right to do whatever he wants. Of course they would sell what's going on in LA as whatever fits their agenda.
Brits: this is what will happen if you let Farage in.
Act now to prevent it.
Too bad it's a fact
This is the language from the law that would permit the President to mobilize National Guard troops in a state without its Governor's consent.
How long until he declares Martial Law?
I mean, this is technically exactly that, albeit in a much more limited scope.
The last time this was invoked was in 1965, during civil rights demonstrations in Alabama. But the Federal Government sent in the troops to protect the demonstrators from their local police.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-20/lbj-sends-federal-troops-to-alabama
This time it's the other way around.
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our national guard and armed forces have a decision to make: us or them. this is your time to reject fascism.
Many who join lean conservative. Many are trump supporters. Don't forget the numbers that voted for him and continue to support him.
It's not going to be that easy.
Not really. The military is a lot more diverse than you probably realize. It's a big melting pot. So many stories of rural Americans raised in racist environments joining the military and being exposed to all kinds of people and realizing they grew up kind of fucked up.
Contrary to what the stereotype is. A lot of military people are pretty wise and worldly. Seeing different cultures and having to deal with the fallout of failed states. It's not like they're progressives or even Lefty's. But they're not MAGA or right either.
This is why they've been firing lots of officers as well. If nobody is aware, the trump government has been removing many many senior leadership in the military.
I think the move right now by the left is to build bridges for people on the right who have spent their life fearing this type of action. Need to leave open the possibility that there are people on the right who understand this isn't good. Obviously there's the trump zealots. But I bet there's a group of right wingers whose fear of government over reach supersedes support for Trump. Groups like the heritage foundation will increase not activity to suppress that mentally among them. But I think we'll start seeing them speak up if we listen.
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So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?
You know they would say that it was stolen, don't you?
You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?
Sure, so they would be saying that if the government arrives at an answer that they believes violates the law, then a violent riot is permissible.
Wouldn't that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one) if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?
They can't logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.
Wouldn't that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one)
No, in their opinion it wouldn't because cops were protecting America from criminals.
if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?
Those among them who don't know what the rule of law is can't care, those who know don't
They can't logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.
They don't have to be logical or rational, deciding what makes an exception is exactly why they're in power.
Holly shit. I hadn't seen that last image you posted before. I didn't realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?
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Microwave dispersal cannons can be blocked by a large poster covered in aluminum foil. Just be sure to attach it to a wood stake.
Sound cannons are loud enough to work through strong ear protection, but sound waves are still air pressure pulses. You can disrupt the flow of the pulse with a solid enough curved shield.
If necessary, storm matchs have their own oxidizer. You can light it and wind won't put it out. Styrofoam and gasoline is sticky. Use that information however you want
Do not use a belt to stop blood flow. Get some proper tournequtes (I don't remember how to spell it). Slide it on, and turn it until the bleed stops. If you think it's too tight, turn it some more.
Edit: most military vehicles are diesel fueled. They are pretty thirsty, so be sure to share water with them. Right in the fuel tank is good enough.
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Calling it...Trump declares California to be in rebellion and suspends their votes in the electoral college and congress in the next elections.
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ELI5, If Republicans in general don't want federal control, they want de-regulation, then why they are supporting federal control of California?
They are only against federal control when it's them who are being controlled. They are fine with it happening to other people. It's how they can claim to be pro freedom out of one side of their mouth and anti-freedom with the other. Laws for thee, none for me.
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The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
- Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Here we go. Buckle up and arm yourselves.
This is another step in Project 2025
Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.
I’ve been talking about this for a decade now and a lot of people accused me of being a conspiracy theorist.
Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years. Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it (or rhyme, whatever) and those that do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.
its annoying and stupidifying how goddamn stupid humanity is that all it takes is 1 generation of removal to repeat the exact same fucking bullshit,
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