Newsom should do more than that; he should order them to stand down and direct the California Bureau of Investigation, California Highway Patrol, or California State Guard to arrest any troops who fail to comply.
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He wouldn't but that would be absolutely amazing
He should do more than that. He should have them protect Californians from being kidnapped by ICE.
Thats what caused this whole thing. And he's been cooperating with ICE while citizens have been defending their communities.
OK, I am not very smart but all of the news coverage. I’m seeing is basically just National Guard police and riot gear stand around. I understand that there was a car that was set on fire that there were people tearing up shops and billboards, but there haven’t been any police officers sent to the emergency room. Nobody has died only 60 people have been arrested in the city of millions ?
Is Trump waving his military size penis around because he wants too?
Or was there a legit reason to send in the National Guard ?
National Guard should not be deployed. It’s plainly illegal.
They’re there to foment unrest, to be a lightning rod for violence, so that they can start shooting people.
was there a legit reason to send in the National Guard?
No. The protests were a few dozen people, but immediately ballooned more than tenfold after that announcement. I wouldn't be surprised if the administrative costs of processing Trump's order cost more than what damage had been done by that point.
This was just escalation: inciting further unrest to justify a crackdown.
Oh man, I was in the Army for 10 years - costs of activating and deploying reserve and non-active duty people is enormous, like the money we lost after Hurricane Katrina was like 50% of just sending in emergency people.
Saw a thing earlier today of someone taking a pot-shot at a reporter with a rubber bullet. She was no where anyone, dude just started blasting. On top of simply trying to cause problems ya can’t deny that cops also just love cruelty for the sake of it.
Is Trump waving his military size penis around because he wants too?
Yes.
There was a good reason, to stop the police and ICE from attacking people, that's not why they were sent though. In the past the National Guard has been called in to stop local police, like during the end of segregation when local authorities opposed race-mixing in the 60s. But the purpose in this case is to escalate tensions and push the narrative of a 'violent insurrection'.
Numerous people have been sent to the ER after being attacked by police, including a UK journalist who needed emergency surgery after his calf muscle was impaled by a 40mm 'rubber bullet'. People have been shot by teargas and other munitions at close range and been trampled by horses from the LAPD. Many of the fires seen were started by flashbangs and other munitions used by the police. They also have 500 US Marines on standby, which is also only for the purpose of agitating people further and selling the unrest as an 'invasion' to his base.
US Marines policing their own citizens would be a violation of the Posse Commitatus Act?
I'm sure a lawsuit will stop Trump this time. Its the perfect do nothing plan.
I know! Those thirty three felony convictions stopped him right? So did the hundreds of lawsuits.
Don't worry, he has to listen this time. It's the law and its not like he had the supreme court declare him above the law or anything crazy like that.
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This is where Scientology makes a good point (it pains me to say that). If he is mired in lawsuits he will be rendered ineffective.
arrest him
Please don't, if we make it to 2028 I don't want him to be the nominee.
Truly we should wait for the Perfect Opposition instead of having a Less Than Perfect candidate to lead against the fascist.
Having a candidate who will at least make a good faith effort to address the corruption underlying our politics is the bare minimum, and Newsom ain't it. He'd just put things on pause until the next fascist can gain power, like Biden did.
Your leftist hero is never emerging. You can not expect the system of corruption to birth a non corrupt candidate, and you are going to die waiting for them.
A "centrist" liberal trying to cater to Republicans has clearly been working well for everyone
You think Kamala would have sent the national gaurd to California against the governor's wishes?
I mean the dems are useless and probably wouldn't have accomplished too much, but we wouldn't be living in a fascist state and she would have probably at least have been trying to codify Roe v. Wade.
But now we have this instead so
No, I'm saying that the Dems are going to keep getting walloped at the polls until they start running actual reformers who are going to try and improve people's to lives. They keep sending putting forward the same messge for the past decade that clearly isn't working
Nobody in this comment thread has even insinuated that any Democrat would be this bad. I was talking about Newsom being a Democrat who wouldn't try to address the underlying issues that have made people open to fascism, and the other commenter was talking about centrist Democrats' apparent electoral weakness. You (and the other guy) are arguing with a straw man.
The comment I replied to seemed to be referencing how dems tried to pander to centrist and courted Liz Cheney of all people for Kamala's campaign.
I'm sorry this spawned off of your comment, but it seems entirely related to the comment I replied to.
If any kind of anti-corruption effort is a leftist dream, then yeah I guess we are fucked. Thanks for your contribution.
Cool, dont listen to the concerns of others, or why they are willing to vote or not vote for someone, just yell the other side is worse, and that will fix it. Lets not forget newsom did immedatly once trump was elected fold on all his suport for trans people.
Also we should truly just wait for the next election and vote harder, there is no reason to do a revolution, as we all know Facist Italy was defeated at the ballot box.
Oh I wouldn't mind some time under an Eleni Kounalakis administration.
If he found the courage to stand up and get arrested it would be a step towards actually deserving the nom.
Maybe spending time with prisoners would give him some much-needed insight as well.
Plus I think we deserve to see our candidates without makeup and fancy hair. Come out with a buzzcut and tats... (Heehee autofill tried to make it tatas) Admit it, that's part of why we wanted Trump The Mob Don to go to prison.
Sue? Why doesn't he just order the national guard to protect the people from the ICE Gestapo?