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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the web is already destroyed with all the spam, commercial crap, tracking and spying

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But the people making money off of all of that are mad now, hence this article.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. smallest violin plays in the distance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

At this point, I'm pretty sure the violinist is on our side, and is no longer to playing for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

What is dead may never die.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago

“About to”?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Google disagrees. In fact, the company tells the BBC that AI Overviews have been good for the web, and AI Mode will be no different. Google insists these features send users to "a greater diversity of websites" and the traffic is "higher quality" because people spend more time on the links they click.

However, the company hasn't provided data to back up these claims.

This is how we know they are lying.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Google disagrees. In fact, the company tells the BBC “Trust us, bro.”

Non-AI summary.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

More time per click is such a useless metric for the end user.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn, thats fuckin' metal, bro. Also, the text to gif gave me a flashback of ~15 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

feels like its 1998 and I'm listening to MTV while browsing the web on AOL with that gif, lol

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't used Google Search in quite a while. It's frankly unusable for finding any useful information for someone like me.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not sure about the web but Google can for sure Yahoo themselves out of existence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I miss Yahoo games.

Google only has one game, and it's not even multiplayer. :/

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yahoo games and clubs, groups and search, chat and messenger that had filesharing and video and allowed cross fertilisation between everything. It was becoming the internet, it was set to buy Google and then it just stopped and closed it all down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Japanese people: oh not again

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We're soon going to end up back in the early/mid 90s where the only way to find something is via a internet yellowpages.. only this time, not because search engines dont exist yet, but because they are completely worthless garbage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget to put your website on a webring! https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man I miss the old internet..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone posted this the other day: https://goodinternetmagazine.com/building-a-slow-web/

I really liked the idea so I quickly made my personal site and put it on the indie webring. It's a tiny community but it's there.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: The missing business model for websites is killing the web. If there was a platform that would distribute a monthly fee to the websites we visit, the web would be much better.

50% could be allocated through traffic, 50% by choice. I could pay 20€ a month for example. Some would go to lemmy, some to my local newspaper, some to my favorite YouTube channels, authors or bloggers.

If enough people did this, investigative journalism would be funded, product testers wouldn't be reliant on sponsoring and hobbyists could gain serious funding without selling out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like you want to nationalise the internet and all its services. :P

If only we could pay for a worthwhile internet via taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

This sounds exactly like what Brave is/was supposed to be/could have been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love a if there was a standard websites would use to receive donations. An integrated browser addon that track what you visit and gives you a review before distributing funds after each month would be great. It should accumulate money to avoid transaction fees for tiny amounts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Google search engine has been shit for a decade or more. Wasn't there some document that it was made so by purpose, because there was no incentive to improve it becuse there was no real competition or the competition was just a front-end to google.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

2018-2019 is when they officially turned the corner and decided to focus only on ad revenue. But the SEO abuse dove it into the ground by 2014ish. They were making money enough to expand by orders of magnitude into other areas, so they simply didn't want to tweak their search or strategy and kill their golden goose that funded things like Good Drive and their shit social network and loon, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

I'm not a huge fan of Ed Zitron generally, he leans towards histrionic too much for my tastes, but he makes a compelling case here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

histrionic

True... yet nearly everybody else, maybe beside few like 404 media, seems to be either boot licking or access "journalism" so I get the "spicy" take.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I recommend Kagi. It is a search engine with absolutely no tracking or ads, AI slop filter, an in-house index and a cute doggo. It's a paid search engine (which means you pay with money not with data), but you can give it a try with 300 free searches with no strings attached.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I called this one pretty early on. Let's see if it catches on or tanks the Goog.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Cool, I'll just ditch Google at work as well, then

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Blaming google is like blaming the gun for killing someone, google gonna do what google gonna do, it's up to the consumer to effect change through attention.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Well no, it's not, because they have multiple monopolies. So we should blame them and blame government for not stopping them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, it's counter-productive to blame individuals for doing the best they know how in a broken system.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's Google changing their algorithm to feed you AI slop.

The first page and a half of Google results now is just AI-generated comparison websites. That's by design.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Use another search provider then, it's what's called consumer discretion and historically has the best chance of effecting an outcome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

#1 most butthurt response ever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, i just know a bot when I see one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

To a degree perhaps. It has also monopolised industries that feed into each other. Even if you choose not to use their consumer products, you are being used by them as the product in these industries if you use the web at all, which is most of their business model. That isn't consumer choice. Political intervention is one hope, which in some countries I guess there is some consumer power over, if consumers were to collectivise to a degree more valuable than the lobbying power of this monster. The internet was turned into the yellowpages with sharp teeth by google .

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