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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No, its fucking facts just like in 2000 they stole election then too. They rigged the election. This isn't the only article you can find on this. They have clear evidence unlike Trump claims.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What should we do about the next elections?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
  • Don't run a senile old man
  • Hold a proper primary so that a popular person gets the nomination instead of someone like Kamala Harris
  • Promise material changes that will improve peoples' lives and don't say "we aren't going to do anything different, but the other guy is a fascist so you have to vote for us"
[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems technically plausible, I'd like a group to try to simulate such an attack with the hardware pieces involved, implementing this in a proof-of-concept... let's see the Rockland hand recount as well and compare against official results. Until then it still sounds like a cuckooo conspiracy to me.

Things being where they are, and with how many MAGA supporters showed their true colours from brainwashing, at this point I would rather take the opportunity for the US to associate MAGA Republicanism with this dark time on the brink of fascism, than coast into mediocrity. It's a huge risk, but with the number of people united, coming together this weekend tells me there's a chance the people of America could come out stronger than their tyrannical President, spineless Congress and Supreme Court.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Easier than what I had imagined. A half measure wolnt work when palantir had years to plan. A swing state needs to do a full recount. And it can't be just any swing state. You see America is the particular kind of stupid that would purchase un-auditable, fully digital machines.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Data that makes no statistical sense. A clean sweep in all seven swing states. The fall of the Blue Wall. Eighty-eight counties flipped red—not one flipped blue.

"When the hurricane blew through, every single window of my house was broken. Surely you'd think at least one would survive through sheer chance. I refuse to believe my windows could've been that breakable, so this is evidence that my house was sabotaged."

Donald Trump outperformed expectations in down-ballot races with margins never before seen—while Kamala Harris simultaneously underperformed in those exact same areas.

It couldn't possibly be that lots of low-information voters who don't give a shit about the rest of the ballot didn't like Kamala and decided to take another flyer on Trump because he was at least promising to shake things up and take action, obviously it's a conspiracy. We made it very clear that the economy was fine, and that if you were feeling financially stressed, no you weren't.

If one were to accept these results at face value—Donald Trump, a 34-count convicted felon, supposedly outperformed Ronald Reagan.

And this is obviously impossible because the author doesn't feel like it could happen. Surely the United States would never elect a bad person, that's not like us at all.

Look, the results were pretty uniform across all 50 states, across all 50 completely isolated and different voting systems. The country took a big swing to the right, in swing states and uncompetitive ones, in states with paper ballots and electronic ones. We told the right this same stuff in 2020, it was true then, and it's true now. Rigging so many elections on the scale it would take to swing the overall results requires an insanely huge conspiracy with no leaks and no mistakes and perfect accounting for the massive number of public statistics and results surrounding elections. If it happened, we'd have more than a handful of conspiracy theorists saying "but these numbers look funny" and until that happens, pay this whole thing no mind.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Unforgiveable.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Copying trump won't help you

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait. This article suggests that a UPS was an attack vector.

Really?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's actually extremely plausible.

A smart UPS needs to have access to some very low level functionality on the machine it's connected to in order to safely power it off in the event of a power failure. So you're talking about having at least some root / kernel level access there. It's not crazy to imagine that a malicious driver update could slip in more.

As another poster commented, I'd like to see this actually simulated to be sure, but it's not an idea that I'm willing to dismiss out of hand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All they need is the ability to report battery percentage and send an ahci shutdown command to the OS. This is usually handled by an agent running on the machine, otherwise networked ups's would be useless

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, but in theory a malicious driver could do more. How much more I'm not exactly certain of, but I'm not going to outright dismiss the idea. Like I said, I'd like to see someone prove it in a lab.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The most wtf part is using windows on a voting machine and the fact that windows trusts an UPS that connected via usb, I'm not sure how true it is but I'd kind of believe that, as usb is the best way to attack airgapped systems

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The most WTF part is that you all use voting machines. In Canadian federal elections every vote is counted by hand, end of story.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

💯 we should all be very wary of voting machines. If it's not fully open source and cryptographically verifiable, it's not secure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Same in the UK

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can't speak for the whole US, but in Connecticut we use a Scantron sort of system where you fill in bubbles on paper and feed it into a machine. This leaves us with a paper ballot in addition to the machine's totals. Using machines isn't necessarily a bad thing, it makes the count a lot faster and it's not like human counters couldn't lie. If other states don't have that paper backup though, they should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We use the same thing for civic and provincial elections in Canada, but for federal it's strictly hand count only.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The voting village at defcon is a nightmare, a dream or a joke depending on your perspective

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The reason governments use windows is because Microsoft paid to have the various certifications done that are required by regulators. That's why when they do use Linux they end up using something like RHEL (the support contracts factor in too)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Sure, why not, any internet connected device is inherently unsafe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

I fucking knew it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don’t know why the SMART guys don’t work together with the https://electiontruthalliance.org/ guys…

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