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I know it's not that hard $ dpkg -i but opening the terminal gives normies an aneurysm and thanks to the crazy gatekeeping gen alpha doesn't know what a file type is now.

I use Ubuntu btw. Personally, the App store's on Linux confused me a ton, setting up Flatpak and some other package repositories. I much preferred the windows way, shocker, with just downloading and double-click the exe file.

Do I have to make a pull request myself to get this done, or what is the debate on this?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

FWIW instead of dpkg -i stuff.deb, you can use apt as such: apt install ./stuff.deb (The path syntax like ./ is required to use a local file instead of searching for a package name).

Unlike dpkg, apt is able to fetch dependencies if needed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gnome-Software and GDebi can do exactly that for you. Download a deb, right click "open with X", and they'll install it for you using GUI. You can even change file associations so debs are opened by gdebi/gnome-software by simple double-clicking.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Strange when I double click a .deb and or a .flatpakref file the gnome software application opens with the option to install that package. (Linux mint)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

This is deliberately not allowed in order to ensure that Linux remains exclusive for nerds.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

the monkey's paw curls a finger and your wish is granted

you can now right click and select install. But it doesn't actually install properly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It doesn't check dependencies.

You have 356 different copies of libcurl installed on your system.

Nginx, Apache and Lighttpd are all running in the background and collectively using the same port, somehow.

Wayland and X are both running with multiple sessions but none of them are on the default TTY.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

dpkg doesn't? I sometimes use apt install command but didn't think it mattered if the deb package was configured right.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

It's an embellishment on the above monkey's paw comment, not actual technical information.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@RommieDroid It’s not there by default, but Gdebi can do the trick. I used it quite a lot when I first started with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's awesome. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

@RommieDroid No problem. Many of us are here to help in the #linux community, though I wouldn’t say I’m the most advanced with it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I use Mint and I just double-click *.deb files to install them. Ubuntu does not do this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Just use nautilus-action

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

If you have Nautilus as the filemanager, you can write a Nautilus script that does this for you, you just then have to right click and select the script. You can run essentially any script this way, I use it for some preset file conversions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I much preferred the windows way, shocker, with just downloading and double-click the exe file.

This is appimage!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Om, AppImage is portable exe. Has it's uses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is this really a common occurrence for you, that the package isn't available via apt?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

On Debian it is. The stable branch is a pain. I need to switch to something else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, understandable.

May I talk to you about our lord and savio, NixOS? (Only kinda /s)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Nice!

How much do you know of nix? (Just gauging where I should start in my propaganda script :D)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If it's only due to the branch, i.e. a package or desired version isn't available in stable but is in testing or unstable, you may try using pinning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Reading, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Most end-user software is not in Debian/Ubuntu repos. Sublime Text, Discord, Anydesk, Google Earth, Ente Photos, Synergy, Steam, NordVPN... The list goes on. You download a Deb from their website.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I really don't understand why it's not more streamlined, it should work like an exe where I just click it and it installs and handles dependencies automatically.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Installing a random .deb comes with enormous security implications. I am not sure that making the process more beginner friendly is a really good idea.

"Beginner friendly" should be limited to things from the main repositories, and for that there is the Software Center.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

What linux does and does not protect the user from is endlessly hilarious to me.

Hey linux, I want to install a file you downloaded.

Linux: Sounds risky man

I'd like my file explorer to have super user privleges.

Linux: Are you out of your god damned mind?

Hey linux, I want to delete the kernel that I'm actively using right now.

Linux: Hell yeah. I'll go to the looney bin with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not any more dangerous than installing a random exe. And a GUI that opens when you click one could explain that danger much better than what currently happens: people blindly use sudo dpkg and that's it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It's the same thing with .exe on windows. It's potentially dangerous and people need to be mindful what they download and install.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

@MangoPenguin @RommieDroid It’s more so that the people working on “beginner friendly” Linux distros are pushing users towards Software Centers/App stores these days.

Those of us who are familiar with the old ways don’t really have much trouble, but there’s stuff that is a big pain, like #LibreOffice

Installing the latest version of that is easier to do in the terminal and can’t be done as conveniently as what you propose, though I wish it was that easy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about those beginner-friendly distros, they seem a little doggy and miss out on the massive work that the Debian and Ubuntu teams do that a smaller team can not. Snap is good for small, one time use or untrusted apps. But most of the time, its performance is really slow. It needs some work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

@RommieDroid Most of them are based on Ubuntu, such as Mint and the stagnated Pop! OS.

I can’t say what they are all like, but Ubuntu and its family are all the ones adopting a software center/App store these days.

In the past, I remember using Synaptic for searching for software, which was just a GUI front end for APT.

I’ve been using Nala lately in my VMs though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When I was on popos I would just double click deb files and eddy would open and install

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"popos" is german for "butts", PopOS! is a bit different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Eddy doesn't care which, he's installing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Just add your own context menu shortcut for .deb files that runs sudo deb -i $_

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait, for real? Gen Alpha doesn't know what a file type is??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

fr, windows hides the file type by default.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Windows has done this since I was a kid (I'm a millennial). Later gens have no excuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Not quite what you want, but in dolphin you can open a terminal with F4, and then just type sudo deb -i <package.deb> and your password. Pretty quick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

It's a useful shortcut.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That's a bad idea because you have no clue if any random .deb file is actually compatible with your system or not (a .deb intended for use on Debian Bookworm will not necessarily work on Ubuntu 25.04, or vice-versa, for example). And that's on top of the security issues and lack of dependency resolution that others have mentioned already. If you're new enough to Linux that you don't feel comfortable with the terminal, you should not be trying to install things via .deb file to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Doesn't apt (not apt-get), unlike dpkg, perform a dependency resolution before installing a downloaded deb package?

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