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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I live abroad, so I can just ignore the whole stupid thing. ๐Ÿ˜„

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm surprised there aren't massive protests scheduled for July 4.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

How many will die on July 4th? What parade will be targeted? Who will be the next mass murderer? Stay home for your safety people. Too many crazies out there now to do anything in public.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm not celebrating patriotism. I'm celebrating a 3 day weekend.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm feeling patriotic enough to burn US flags and I'm not even from the US!

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I think you mean No Kings Day.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I believe you're supposed to fly a flag upside down in times of distress.

I think it would be wildly powerful for some cities to flip their flags for the 4th.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

"Come all ye young rebels And list while I sing For the love of one's country Tis a terrible thing It banishes fear with the Speed of a flame And makes us all part of The patriot's game...."

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I still have hope, until I am forced to emigrate I won't be giving up on us. This country at one point saved my ancestors from doom, I believe it can again. It's actually the "America sucks" crowd we need the most. In the words of AOC: resist, make them make us.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Same I will be working on the 4th so Iโ€™ll just be making good hoilday pay while most of my trump supporting coworkers will be celebrating the downfall of this country. Fuck this shit, fuck everyone who is onboard with the current situation of this country. Stay safe everyone.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

People around the country have stood up to make change.

Our politicians haven't done good for the people.

Take back the power.

Join a No Kings March on July 4th

Celebrate the awesome people of this country, join in.

We want massive change. Politicians may act deaf to anything but money. The money flow changes when we stand together

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I've decided to actively take the flag back from conservatives. There are some good ideals and good people in this country, and good people who fought for those ideals. I'm not proud of most of what the government has done and all of what it is doing now, but I can be proud of the people who want to get along with everyone and fight for diversity and freedom and the good things that should be fought for.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Me, but not from USA, so....

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I don't even like to call myself American. I'm a veteran, and it turned me off of America more than anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I thought you guys don't celebrate it that much any more? Heard it got replaced with a Trump Birthday Military Parade Day or someshit. And it sucked so much that nobody is doing holidays anymore. Sorry, I'm in Europe, the news are coming in slowly from the US these days

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Not sure what you're referring to, but the 4th hasn't really changed. Maybe you're confusing it with the (laughable) military parade Trump did for his own birthday?

Personally I've long found patriotism to be a pretty abhorrent concept, but I've always enjoyed the opportunity to spend time with my family regardless. To me, the 4th is much more about community than it is the country. And while this country is fucking awful, I do have a pretty great community around me that I'm grateful for.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.

Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

After thinking about this myself, Iโ€™m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, Iโ€™m feeling like Iโ€™m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

Always have been, always will be.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare

Don't worry, once they deported or killed all the ~~Jews~~ illegals the prices will surely come down.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're not a wallet. You're an automaton producing value for capitalists.

They dribble a little money into your wallet each fortnight so you can buy subscriptions and delivered take away.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I haven't believed in America in a few years now. Certainly not since the pandemic. As far as I'm concerned, the state I'm from is the only place I owe any allegiance to. The other states can go fuck themselves, especially the red ones

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Patriotism is jingoism at this point. Haven't felt that for decades.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

i never understood how people especially can be proud of once country. in Europe being a patriot is very much frowned upon.

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