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[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What did Trump say yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

A reporter asked how long detainees would stay at the facility in Florida. This was his reply:

I’m gonna spend a lot. This is my home state. I love it. I love your government. I love all the people around … these are all friends of mine. I know them very well, and I’m not surprised that they do so well. Ron (DeSantis) has been a friend of mine for a long time. I feel very comfortable in this state. I’ll spend a lot of time here. You know for four years I’ve got to be in Washington, and I’m OK with it because I love the White House. I even fixed up the little Oval Office. It’s like a diamond. It’s beautiful. It’s so beautiful. It wasn’t maintained properly, I will tell you that, but even when it wasn’t it was still the Oval Office so it meant a lot.

I’ll spend as much time as I can here. You know my vacation is generally here because it’s convenient. I live in Palm Beach. It’s my home, and I have a very nice little place. A nice little cottage to stay at, right. But we have a lot of fun and I’m a big contributor to Florida. We pay a lot of tax. A lot of people move from New York, and I don’t know what New York is gonna do. A lot of people move from Florida to New York for a lot of reasons, but one of them was taxes. Taxes are so high you can’t believe it. I don’t know what New York is gonna do about because some of the biggest, wealthiest people, and some of the people that pay the most taxes of anyone in the world for that matter, they are moving to Florida and other places. So, we are going to have to help some of these states out I think but thank you very much. I’ll be here as much as I can.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, it sounds like he just misheard the question.

Obviously, he rambled and spouted word salad throughout his answer, but that's how he's spoken throughout the past ten years.

Before this comment was posted (thank you for quoting it, btw), I watched all of yesterday's Trump material looking for what the tweet was referring to. Watched the 8 minute helicopter talk, the two gulag tour videos, and the hour-plus long press event where this question came from (toward the end). By and large, Trump was coherent. He understood where he was, what he was doing, was (almost) referencing actual events and data as opposed to lying at all times... As far as his handicap goes, I would say he was shooting above par.

And it tracks for me, because he's been spending his whole life dreaming about the day he'd get to lock up thousands of brown people in a deadly swamp with only the guise of due process. It's not like he's at a UN meeting or something. Mentally speaking, his head has always been at Alligator Auschwitz.

Which is really the point. It is not being called Alligator Auschwitz by its critics only for effect. Calling Trump and his administration Nazis is not slander or hyperbole. It's descriptive. It's what's happening. They are attempting to dismantle all social safety nets and civil rights, to replace it with a true fascist regime, and so far, they are right on course.

So, it bothers me when I see things like this tweet, saying that the hiding of Trump's mental decline is the new Big Lie. Because it's not. Was it a Big Lie when Biden's people tried to present him as more cognitively able than he was? No, at most, it was a regular lie. And Biden was arguably worse on that debate stage than we have seen Trump to date.

That is not to say that Trump is not in cognitive decline. He is. He did seem to mishear that question, and combined with the fact that he will never admit to being wrong, that's a dangerous combo. Hearing loss is often an early indicator of dementia, at least in part because having less sensory information about the world around you makes it harder to keep your thoughts tied to the real world. In the next few years, we could see a true mad king, and that sure is something to be alarmed about.

But the Big Lie is something like claiming an election is stolen despite never being able to produce a shred of evidence. Or something that rises to that level of deceit to attack the foundations of democracy itself. Such as calling a presumptive mayoral nominee a criminal and saying he should be deported, while frequently floating the idea of "deporting" US citizens. Or saying that a governor's "crime" was running for office. These are not just regular lies, they are truly fascist lies. That is what we are trying to delineate and why it is important not to ignore the parts of Trump that are still comprehensible. We should not give him the moral credit of being an oblivious fool while he is speaking coherently about detaining and renditioning political opponents who have committed no crimes.

I knew he was going to get elected again when I saw that rally where he cut the Q&A short and danced for like 20 minutes onstage while listening to multiple versions of Ave Maria. All the media outlets immediately reported that he had lost it and was fully senile. But I went and watched that rally to get the full context. There were multiple people fainting from extreme heat in the audience, so he was pausing the event while they got medical attention, and basically started asking for some of his favorite songs to be played over the loudspeakers which transitioned this into onstage dancing. The liberals saw this as unhinged, which I'm sure he loved because it kept them from noticing that everyone who was on Trump's side and following along saw it as a hang out session. Their leader just rolling with the punches and playing his favorite songs for them and generally having a good time. It made him look like an every-man, not a politician.

Every single time this guy goes up against democracy, everyone laughs about how he's a clown who says funny things and doesn't know what's going on, and how nobody could possibly agree with this orange-faced buffoon. And then, the National Association of Buffoons backs his agenda and he kicks democracy's ass. It's frustrating how consistent this pattern is. I have no call to action to end on here. I think we all know. I'm just tired of this and wanted to vent. I really hope we can bring this civilization back from the brink before it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

He hasn't been coherent since he started running. His "normal" word salad is itself indicative of mental fog. A world leader that can't answer the question asked shouldn't ever be a world leader.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

I agree, in this case it seemed like he just misheard the question. Maybe more would happen if people spent more time hounding their senators and reps to do something and less time commenting on social media. Or maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

In his defence hasn't he be rambling like that since 2016?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ah. I now see my comment could have been much shorter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

No way, you really put the effort in!

I especially appreciated the golfing terminology, well played!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It has gotten progressively worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Worse than the famous nuclear quote he said 8 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Srsly? TONS of people are calling out Trump's mental decline, just not major media outlets, and calling it out isn't having any effect. It's weird to me that people expect dramatic movie moments in real life politics. Like when the nerds expose the rich kid's evil dad's crooked real estate deal. Police immediatley lead him away in disgrace followed by a crowd of reporters, his reputation ruined, and the bikini shop is saved! That's not how this shit really works, kids.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Believing the corporate news sewers are going to do the right thing in regards to trump is very sad.

The are not. They will not. It will not happen. They've already proven that for almost a decade.

This is because they are owned by republiQans. They are advertising-driven. They exist to create and give credence to the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Believing the corporate news sewers are going to do the right thing is very sad.

FTFY. As you correctly note further down all decisions are driven by ratings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Still calling them "news" is a disservice to every sentient creature on the planet, and then some.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I have called it corporate news for years now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Conway

https://www.newsweek.com/george-conway-defends-biden-says-trumps-gaffes-could-make-5-hour-clip-1868731

He thought Biden was fine, he's obviously not an expert on cognitive abilities.

Like, he might be right about trump now, but so are lots of people who weren't pulling the same shit for the last president.

There is zero reason to give Conway any attention. If you want to find someone saying trump is insane, that's not a very shallow selection pool, you can be more discerning

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

He thought Biden was fine

Yeah, that's a problem. He's either total shit at his job or his hypocrisy is on full display. It's not a good look either way.