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In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison. (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Seems a bit much to label them as terrorist but they've done a lot of vandalism on various companies. Seems their MO is to find a target rationalize how it's somehow tangentially associated with Israel and then break some shit.

They crossed a line when they did this to a military base and vandalized some RAF planes. They had some weirdo rationalization for this, but forgot to rationalize how this kind of thing will help anyone in Gaza. They seem to be just breaking things to get attention for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I support Palestine Action 🇵🇸

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 minutes ago

You can't say that this is a Christian server, where we support mass murder, like the good people that we are.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, and I thought the US was bad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago

We just really really like you.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree that it wasn't a reasonable protest and those responsible should be prosecuted for the criminal damage etc... but to list them as a terrorist group because of one non-terrorising action is a tad ridiculous, counter-intuitive, and the optics for the government are terrible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

don't disagree that it wasn't a reasonable

You broke my brain with that one

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Fair enough, I wouldn't disagree that it wasn't the worstn't way to word it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Hahaha I got what you were saying but I had to read the first part like 5 times. All good though 👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Double negative is positive, but a triple negative is back to negative. 😵‍💫

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Madness. This is madness. We have no right to criticise Russia or China after this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Madness? This is Starmer!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's Blair actually. His gvmt put through the changes to the Terrorism act in (I think) 2001 that has allowed this sort of thing to happen.

One of the ironies of this whole situation is that Yvette Cooper has expressed admiration for the Suffragette movement numerous times, including in the Commons. A movement that self-described as terrorists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, but that doesn't rhyme with Sparta.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I mean that's what happens when your organisation organises a break-in of an RAF site and causes millions of pounds of damage to military aircraft.

There are reasonable ways to protest, and that wasn't one of them.

Support one of the many other unaffected groups that support Palestine without doing absurd things like this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

That's not what this is about. Everyone agrees that damage to military assets is a criminal action, no matter how you justify it. The problem I and others have is that the actions don't meet any sort of sensible criteria for what is "terrorism". Most people would say terrorism must involve mass harm to people, not necessarily property. Lots of other organisations over the years should have been proscribed if "terrorism" means property damage. Anyone involved in the race riots, Just Stop Oil, hell, even Banksy, would all qualify if that was the case. It opens the door for the UK government to proscribe any organisation it doesn't like, which is especially concerning at a time when the next government is likely to be even more authoritarian and use this event as precedent to do the same but more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Depends on your goals and what you are willing to risk to achieve them. Some people throw paint on priceless art, some people light themselves on fire, some people yell at people on the internet. Any protest is a cost-risk evaluation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't they damage weapons for Ukraine, not Israel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

That was in Belgium I think.