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    submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by produnis@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I mean, if you have the gui enabled and are just using it for web browsing it’s no different than windows.

    [–] produnis@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yep, so why even use Windows nowadays?

    [–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Because a handful of programs and likely my job will force me to use Windows. I'm interviewing next week for a position where they'll give me "all IT equipment", and there were several technical questions about Windows in a prior interview, so no Linux there.

    Still, whenever I can choose to do so, e.g. at home, I pick Linux.

    [–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Sounds to me like radical terrorism will help convince them to change to and port their programs to Linux

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    "Bearded man with penguin fetish holds fellow office workers hostage, more at 11."

    [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago
    [–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

    Haha, I could see that

    [–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I would straight up refuse job if it forced me to use Windows, however I mostly do server/cloud/dev so it just makes sense.

    [–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Considering I have no income right and I've been rejected from ~150 jobs, I need to take what I can get.

    [–] desconectado@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

    Whaaaat? You filthy windows lover.

    But seriously though, some people talk here like if folks have a choice.

    [–] Misconduct@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago

    Do you know how truly privileged you are to be able to consider not taking a source of income for something like that? Lol

    [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Yeah as an engineer in factories I’d be shocked if someone let me use linux

    That's literally been the types of jobs I've been applying for, and they always want me to be an instant expert in their proprietary SCADA/DCS/PLC software even for "fresh graduate" positions. Not using proprietary software is tantamount to not working in manufacturing engineering.

    [–] OddFed@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

    Just go ahead and ask them. I mean I don't know anything about your job, but usually nowadays there is little reason to stick to Windows with Office 365 and stuff.

    Most of the time it just never got challenged because no one cared enough. So it's not like they "insist on Windows". It's "they didn't bother yet".

    Of course you'll likely be faced with the myth of maintenance. Counter that with security (homogeneous environment is very good against malware and such) and missing license costs to convince the C*O. Done.

    [–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Because sometimes one has no choice, be it for your job, or hardware support, etc.

    Unfortunately, there is some scientific and medical equipment that only supports Microsoft Windows (often obsolete versions, which is even worse).

    [–] desconectado@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

    I feel you... some machines in my previous lab were running on windows 98.

    [–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

    as much as I love Linux, some softwares don't work with it

    haven't dualbooted windows yet though because I have a small drive and I don't need Windows update fucking with my bootloader

    [–] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

    For general use, Linux is fantastic. But as other people have said, some software only works on other systems. Also, some software does run on Linux, but not acceptably so (for example, SteamVR).

    [–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago
    [–] siderealyear@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

    Yep, my kid is just starting to fool around with Minecraft and every time we play, I launch the client from the command line. Planting the seeds...

    [–] thepianistfroggollum 21 points 2 years ago

    My wife's uncle did this for his 90 year old mother. He just put Solitaire and a link to her email on the desktop and she was good to go.

    [–] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    When I have kids and they begin using computers, they're installing Gentoo with dad.

    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)
    [–] dukk@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

    This made me laugh out loud.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago

    !usernamechecksout@lemmy.zip

    [–] 18107@aussie.zone 11 points 2 years ago

    I have a friend who's 91. He just started using Linux, and has had only minor issues that I was able to fix in seconds.

    It's nowhere near as difficult as it was 10 years ago.

    [–] SigHunter@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
    [–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

    I think you mean ages 0-255

    [–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

    Fuck 100+ year olds I guess?

    [–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

    my (based) parents introduced me to lubuntu on a netbook as a kid

    [–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Best option for someone who’s only ever used Linux on servers, and who plays at least 1 game that does not run on Proton bc of EAC?

    Split my m2 for a Linux partition and dual boot? Vm windows in Linux?

    If dualbooting, advice on not accidentally overwriting my primary drive (again)

    I already know I should use arch, right?

    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Don't partition the same drive for dual boot. Use an entirely different physical disk altogether and boot from there. It's logistically simpler and less prone to failure (maybe you'll need to finagle with UEFI secureboot). Maybe just use an SSD for Windows (no, don't whine, you won't notice the speed difference while in game).

    For virtual machines, be aware that performance takes a massive hit. You can pass-through a graphics card, but you better be very comfortable with whatever virtualization solution you're using because it's the most technically complex and involved thing you can do with a VM. And you most likely will need a separate dedicated graphics card than the one your host system use (I think it's hardware dependent now).

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    I like Debian, tho GNOME isn't my piece of cake

    Use Nobara as a beginner arch will destroy you. And nowadays EAC works with proton most if the time so don't forget to check your game on protobdb

    [–] Shizu@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I agree!

    • sent from Sailfish OS
    [–] bigdog_00@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    How is SailfishOS? I was keeping an eye on UBPorts (Ubuntu Touch), occasionally installing that on my Pixel 3a, but it just wasn't there for me. Same for PostMarketOS, but the new GNOME Shell on mobile seems great. How is Android app support on SailfishOS?

    [–] Shizu@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Honestly? It feels janky. I got it on the latest Xperia 10 III and it feels like a cheap toy compared to a Samsung Galaxy S21. The OS feels rough. The navigation gestures fail regularly (you use the same gesture for going back in an app and going back to the home screen. I often end up not getting back to the home screen but going back in the app.)

    Android Apps feel stuttery. I compared surfing the same webpage on the built-in browser and brave browser thru Android. Jerboa is stuttery too when compared to a Samsung Galaxy. It's def the Android layer and not the hardware as the native stuff works smoothly. Another concern of mine is the encryption. To my understanding the only encrypted part about the OS is the /home folder nothing else. Android runs in /opt tho (except for the sdcard stuff. That's in the /home folder). This means all configs and passwords and stuff is freely accessible when the device gets accessed thru a third party(?).

    However! It's really cool as it's unusual and it runs linux so you are free to do whatever you feel like. That's a huge plus. In my opinion: if you need many android apps in your daily life, better go with something like GrapheneOS. Sailfish is great if you use the native stuff and occasionally android apps. (Although.. now that I think about it. The built-in weather app doesn't currently work as the api key jolla used to access the weather service isn't valid anymore..)

    [–] bigdog_00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I actually went to GrapheneOS from my iPhone, after deciding none of the other option were going to work for me. Bummer about the encryption, maybe that can be fixed?

    [–] Shizu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I'm actually in the process of trying out various attack vectors. I'm trying to find out if it's actually possible to get access to everything besides /home as the Xperia 10 III doesn't have any custom recoveries yet. About the encryption I'm not sure tho. I could try and also encrypt dalvik using the same LUKS encryption but im afraid that might break some things. At least the /home folder is fairly safe if you choose a strong enough password.

    [–] Shizu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

    I found out that all app related android stuff is actually located in /home/.android/ so it seems your data is fairly secure - provided your encryption key is reasonably good. I also tried enabling Android Stock Encryption through the dalvik settings but Android Support just crashes when trying to enable that. Must be because Android is just translated and not emulated and the devs didn't implement the encryption.

    [–] librechad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

    Eww Ubuntu.

    [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

    A before and after of a young woman installing all the necessary packages for her work.