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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 20 minutes ago

Better enforcment of GDPR and DSA may be enought to effectively ban big US tech without passing any new law.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is all talk. The EU and European countries are articulating what they know their population and the EU tech sector wants them to do BUT in the end, they will do none of it. Maybe vote a few laws, fund a few cheap FOSS projects that will never truly be applied/ used by EU countries except for a handful of cities, public services. But it will remain a minority as long as the EU puts the interests of the financial sector above all others.

Talking spaces such as this lemmysub are places where we, the end users and creators can collaborate to pressure them to at least consider things and get out of this Trump/Xi dependency our politicians want for us.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How about no??

Silicon Valley is an epicenter for the world's most expensive narcicism. For 5k a ticket you'll get first rate sycophancy, the kind Nero would enjoy. There's probably about as many dead sex workers buried underneath silicon valley as there are indigenous corpses underneath boarding schools.

No joke, Silicon Valley needs to die - in a fire.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

True but that is probably not what the vision is supposed to be.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago

Am American in tech. I would like to come help. Actively trying to get out of this country.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

How about helping businesses actually stay in Europe. It's almost impossible to scale up in europe due to insane moats everywhere.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

"American silicon valley, European silicon valley, all made in Taiwan"

~Some Ukrainian guy probably

[โ€“] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

No Eurotechbro stuff, thanks.

European tech? Sure. But only if fully decentralised, peer to peer, FOSS, copyleft and all that.

And oh also, bars out fascists.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, please!

[โ€“] [email protected] 63 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

In addition, we must work to create a European Big Tech industry.

yes, but also facepalm this is still missing the point

Big Tech industry

^ taps the sign above my head

THAT is the problem, yes the US version is one of the more aggressive cancers but recognize that the US is a product of the US mindset that worships big tech.

People are running out of water for their families because a category of techbro running my country consider the power hungry datacenters powering this AI "techboom" more important than human lives.

points at the sign

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In a much more regulated environment you would have recycled water instead of destroying families water supplies.

A lot of these critiques are of unregulated capitalism as opposed to the entity of big tech itself. Now can you have big tech without unregulated capitalism maybe not, there's a reason it's as broken of a system as it is.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm an American who has worked in tech for nearly 30 years and I fully support this, so much so that I'm considering moving to Europe to help build it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Likewise. Actively trying to figure out how to network out of the United States.

[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Can we not? Silicon Valley sucks and imo hasn't done anything innovative for a long time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think that they haven't been innovative. Moreso, there's a deliberate strategy by FAANG/MIC companies to buy (or bury) smaller startups that are innovating.

Then those bigger companies mothball the tech with no plan to sell or market their acquisitions, nor release the IP rights on what they own.

It's not so much that there's no innovation, it's just good old fashioned tech monopoly behavior.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

That can happen, but I don't think that's the point. a) big companies could invest in expensive research like nobody else (aside from state research) b) these hubs are often about having the right companies and universities in one place, which results in employees and graduates spinning out their own innovative start ups, because the region has all the knowhow and manufacturing they need c) most big companies don't do very risky innovation, instead they buy successful startups to build upon them, but that can still be innovative if they buy them early on and finance further research

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

good old fashioned ~~tech~~ monopoly behavior

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago

"We will produce our own TechBrosโ„ข with blackjack and hookers."

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

Even if you are American, you should support this movement. The best way to end or reverse enshittification is through competition. The big American tech companies are no longer competing to make good or innovative products. They are competing to see who can monetize the most while risking the least.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago

Yes, another Silicon Valley is definitely what we need โ˜ ๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

you don't have to have a silicon valley

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

Ban might be a bit much, but we're using tariffs and taxes as a confrontational trade war measure. Might as well use them in return and funnel the proceeds into homegrown solutions that can compete legitimately.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

And please hurry.