I think this is a miscalculation. 62% of Democrats want the leadership gone, the establishment Dems are splitting their vote between Adams and Cuomo, and nothing short of full-throated support of Israel will satisfy them anyway. There's no point in appeasing an enemy that is weak, fractured, and belligerent. They pose no threat to him and he has little to gain from winning them over.
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Okay everyone, get your pitchforks ready because if he does veer off to the center and doesn't get significant backlash from the left y'all are doomed, no two ways about it.
Lerner is in bed with a bunch of law firms that I would rather he not be. He does have connections for the kind of campaign Mamdani needs to run to get the DNC suckups to get on board though, so I'm skeptical, but hopefully this is a good.
Khan is a smart fucking move.
Mamdani needs to run to get the DNC suckups to get on board though
why does Mamdani need any of that support at all? He has the nom, he is on the ballot, NYC will be voting for him. Obama and the DNC aren't needed at all.
Apparently you're not really aware of this works.
What do primaries do, and where did this nominations come from?
Also, it's a Primary. He's not on the ballot yet.Thats why everyone is pissed off at the DNC.
Winning the Democratic Primary guarantees him a spot on the ballot. If the gormless dems want to pull some strings and run Cuomo as well they can certainly do that. Compromising with Nazis isn't going to help Mamdani.
No. It doesn't guarantee anything.
The DNC is a political organization that can back whomever on the ballot they want. If they get pushback from enough people, they could run someone else.
They won't because the uprising and abandonment of that organization would be massively stellar, but it's not some officiated process.
Ballot access for NYC mayorial candidacy is 100% officiated. There are explicit rules and requirements that if you meet you are 100% GUARANTEED ballot access. By simply winning the primary, he is 100% guaranteed to be on that Mayoral Ballot. He is also 100% allowed to run with under the Democratic Ticket. There is nothing at all the DNC, a national grifter org, can do to affect his access to the NYC Mayoral Ballot.
They can choose to gather signature and run Cuomo, they can run back other candidates, they can spend millions backing the AIPAC preferred candidates, but they are going to do that regardless of what Mamdani does or says.
You appeal to the base to get the nom, after to get the nom, you move to the center to win the general. Politics 101.
Leftists are to the Democratic party as the MAGA were to the GOP. Tendency to be single issue voters that have no understanding of how government works, weird ideas about some radical changes will improve their lives (which won't) and no understanding of the actual changes needed that would improve things. Buying into populists that promise to fix everything in a day.
The problem is the MAGA took over the GOP and are now trying to do the weirdo policies that were promised to the base. It would be the same if leftists took over government, just a different group of people being harmed by policies based around slogans and ignorance.
But I doubt leftists have the dedication the MAGAs have, so likely they'll go back to being "uncommitted" before they can capture the Democratic party. They also engage with the American tradition of blaming the Democrats for everything (even when they aren't in power) while the MAGA types (Tea party, pro-life, states rights, christian nationalists, etc) were willing to vote GOP in every election while working to take over the party. I doubt slacktivists will have that dedication.
But the good news is that MAGAs might also go back to being non-voters because of the Epstein thing. So maybe some day the US can be run by serious people instead of populist clowns. If it doesn't collapse before that because of the current populist clown in chief.
That is a massive oversimplification and seemingly a blatant misunderstanding.
You don't seem to have a counter for the comparison between leftists and MAGAs other than the left-right social construct. These groups aren't significantly different, I've had conversations with both leftists and MAGAs and the conversations and they are the same conversation on all but a few topics.
Every day the two groups become more similar to each other and now we're at a point that it's only if someone inserts a slogan or mentions a specific ethnic group they dislike that I can tell the difference between a MAGA and a leftist. And that's not always a reliable indicator sometimes since both MAGA and leftists sometimes hate the same ethnic groups.
Hey, if Obama's team could get a black man elected twice then this should work perfectly.
The only way be will get that support is if he pivots to the right. Obama talked like a progressive when he ran, but ruled conservative as a president. So no I don't see this as a good sign.
lmao
Yeah the fucking Obamacare guy was a conservative, OK BUDDY
You must have been the Harris campaign advisor.
Without the public option, Obamacare pretty much just cemented insurance corporations into our society. Any other little things that came along with it have since been gutted by Republicans over the years. The only part that survived was the heritage foundation plan (the people who wrote the fascist project 2025 takeover handbook)
Since when did he enact single-payer healthcare? I must have missed that news.
Public Option, similar to Germany healthcare, was the plan until Independent Joe Lieberman held out keeping the DNC from the required 60 votes to bypass Republican Filibuster.
Let me guess, just like the last DNC fucktard I asked you about, Joe Lieberman was Totally Definitely Completely Unrelated and Absolutely Independent. Everything is different now right? The DNC is completely reformed and progressive now right?
In that user's own words if we had voted in more dems they totally wouldn't end up with enough dissent to kill the public option.
Also ignores how much they could have done by killing the filibuster or simply forcing the person filibustering to actually be there the entire time not just say they would
Obamacare was romneycare. Wtf are you talking about?
You can daydream about what Romney might have done, you can say stuff like "Trump promises to replace Obamacare with something better", but does it mean anything in the face of the fact that under Obama a 58 DNC senate majority actually expanded medicaid while every single Republican voted in opposition?
He passed the Massachusetts healthcare plan that Romney devised and passed. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Every time you respond, you expose yourself.
Its finitebanjo, that's all he does.
This exchange where they don't realize/accept the fact Obama took what Romney did as governor is just the perfect example
He bailed out the banks instead of the people , passed the Republican healthcare bill only aftet he removed the public option. HE damn sure was a progressive. He was supposed to be the Hope and Change president, instead he deported more people than Trump and Biden combined and bomb the fuck out of Afghanistan and other countries. Also appointing Hillary Clinton to Security of of State wasn't best move eithet. He wasn't a conservative like you think of them today but he still moved to the right once he was elected. Some may say he did more good then bad, but he should shoulder some of blame of the track we are on now he help create.
After the 2008 financial crisis much of the world was left in economic turmoil and what Obama did worked. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelies.
Fun fact, the Republicans Filibustered the version of the bill that passed, but the 58 DNC convinced Bernie Sanders and the other Independent holdout to pass it via supermajority. If Republicans had their way there would never have been any Medicaid expansion, tens of millions of people would have suffered without healthcare to this very day.
Conservative =/= Republican. Some of the perceptions in the US are skewed so far to the right that you don't even realise how conservative the Democratic Party is. In a lot of other countries in the world, there are like 3-4 major parties left of where Obama stood, but only like 1, maybe 2, right of him.
Hell Bernie Sanders is to the right to most European countries. They just don't know what conservative means.
jfc first he was howling about Obama but now they're defending Republicans. Do you have any idea where you are right now, son?
Bro, please actually read what the comment you're replying to are actually saying. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
Always do but never stops them
I recognize your username, I don't think I've ever had any pleasant interactions with you and now here you are telling me to listen to an appeal for the 21st century nazi party.
What part of the comment you're complaining about is saying good things about Republicans?
Or did you stop after seeing they put it in?
Conservative =/= Republican. Some of the perceptions in the US are skewed so far to the right that you don’t even realise how conservative the Democratic Party is.
Intentional or not this paragraph is a defence of the Republican party, ans I fully believe it is intentional. The only way conservatives like this can feel any sense of justification is to bring their enemies down to their level.
No this is showing how we don't have a left party in the usa while people are worried Mamdani will end up like Obama did after the DNC gets more involved.
Being critical of how the dems are failing the country is vital, not something that makes one instantly a conservative.
Complete ignorance of policy to say the DNC aren't left and the GOP aren't hardcore right.
They are left in the sense they are to the left of the GOP, and where did you get anyone saying the GOP isn't hardcore right???
They're left in the sense that they expand medical coverage, tax the rich, regulate industries, and promote solutions to climate change.
Cool, still on the right of rest of the world on all those things. See they use of Romenycare instead of going for Medicare for all or universal healthcare
You need to try and read first before replying, then maybe I'd have better things to say about you. You can't expect me to praise you for either being thickheaded enough to not get what people are actually saying or for misrepresenting what people are saying because you don't have an actual argument, can you?
He literally served the people of the United States, not just his constituents and his party. And just like congress should do once they're elected.. should not just serve their constituents, but the people of america, every one of them. But sure, let's keep going on with the fantasy that president barack obama was the republican...
Fox News Entertainment Division Has turned ~~is turning~~ you and you ilk into sheep.
You joke but he has been underperforming with blacks
If the left doesn’t support compromise, I am dunzo’s. Life & politics both require compromise. It often makes navigating difficult, and in many cases, decisions are made that may not satisfy everyone’s interest. So be it. The idea that there is a mandatory acceptance of one because one simply exists and should be included is farcical and an idea of pure whimsy. I’m definitely not saying that we as a culture should not try to be as welcoming, encouraging and inclusive on a whole, as best we can. Just saying this. Not everyone makes the cut and because some may not be acknowledged for what they so desperately desire, that doesn’t make that non acknowledgement an inverse weapon of negativity. I am really tip toe-ing around. I should probably stop commenting right about now. Therefore, I will cease any further comments this evening/early morning.
The compromise meanwhile is: we going to take your right of expression, taxes, and affordable housing, and gave it to a rich person, also maybe trillions to Israel.. and since we dont trust you and you have expectations, we are going to open the gates of immigration so they can do jobs at salaries and condition no citizen would allow.