Bombing the IDF would be protecting the israeli at this point lmao. If anything it'd protect them from ptsd
Also Israeli who don't stand against it are complicit to the IDF run mass murder, and deserve to be put down like the animals they are
Indoctrination and societal pressures are strong in Israel, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Yes they have endless right to attack isreal forever and they exercise that right constantly.
And with.good cause!
IDF HQ was built under a residential neighborhood.
The premise of the question seems strange to me. Did they think they didn't have the right before or what
Yes, attacking military targets is what's meant to happen during war, not random kidnappings or bombing music festivals.
Israel does disproportionate response, but they are responding to fucking something.
EDIT : People in this thread think that Palestine has been behaving like an innocent sacrificial lamb and is basically in the same situation as Ukraine.
The fuck did Syria do??
use context clues.
Hamas attacked Israel so Israel attacked Palestine
US funded Israel so Israel attacked Iran.
Iran attacked Israel back so US attacked Iran.
US told both sides to stop so Israel attacked Iran.
Israel attacked Syria.
That's the context so far. What am I missing about Syria?
Doesn't that context miss the first 50 years of Israrel attacking Palestine before the Hamas attack?
You are missing bennis trial that didn't happen because theres a new war... Something like that.
nassreddin : does this mean we have the right to bomb the idf's hq like that to protect the palestinian people
this is what my response is to. the stuff about syria is not in the context of what I'm taking about.
The context clues would've been relevant maybe for Assad, but not for the new government of Syria, which alot of people have claimed was/is actually being rather collaborationist with Israel.
2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank - occupied Palestinian territory | ReliefWeb https://share.google/bcKER9y3iJCUdSYTq
look at the publication date.
if you think it started in oct7 you are a genocidal idiot
If you think Palestinian attacks on civillians started in oct7 you are also an idiot of a different sort.
do you condemn the Jewish ghetto uprising?
Oh, did they attack german/polish civillians?
they attacked law enforcement officers.
so it's not the same. got it.
Just to put my actual opinion out there, fuck 'em both. There's a reason israel needs "the iron dome" and israel keeps doing psycho shit like the past year, and illegal land grabs. The only difference is that palestine has no international recogition and shitty firepower, I guarantee if the roles were reversed , it would be the same, but with israel on the suffering side.
There's your lack of imagination. "We have to commit genocide, it's self defense".
When apartheid ended , did they just reversed apartheid and put all the whites in Bantulands? after ww2, did they put all the blond Germans in death camps?
how about just abolish apartheid in Israel and give everyone equal rights?
look into https://onestatecampaign.org/en/
Maybe there's a reason Palestinians are fighting for their basic survival. while Israel are fighting to steal land. and don't give me shit about protecting jews, if they did they would have responded to oct7th immediately rather than wait 7 fucking hours (I could have driven from the furthest place in Israel and be there before the IDF) to shoot at israeli civilians running away, or bomb their own bases with soldiers still in, or shell houses when Israelis inside. Or even gunning down naked free hostages in the steets of gaza because they couldn't tell the difference between naked unarmed men begging for help, and Israeli naked unarmed men begging for help.
and that just recently, did you know that Israel bombed Jewish communities in Iraq to force them to flee to Israel?
Israel is a cancer for Jews.
There’s your lack of imagination. “We have to commit genocide, it’s self defense”.
that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying, fuck both these people groups.
you said that if Israel doesn't genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.
I'd love to use that in a trial, if I murder a whole family to steal their house, your honour, if I would have let them live they might have used force to kick me out of their home
you said that if Israel doesn’t genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.
no, what I'm saying is that Palestine is, has , will and if they had the means to, would attack israel (even more). Which, guess what, they do.
I'm not saying is " if Israel doesn’t genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.".
Both groups of people are thirsty for blood and attack the other one.
Do you think the fact that they are in an open air prison, under an illegal siege that lasted 20 years, with regular bombing of civilians might have something to do with their need for resistance?
the only reason they took hostages is because Israel has over a thousand civilians in jail (including children), they never had a trial, and even in death their bodies aren't released and were cases where even the Knesset admitted they stole palestian prisoner's organs, and they are malnourished, tortured and raped.
they wanted a hostage exchange.
and don't give me BS that all those prisoners, who didn't had a trial, who were moved across international borders (war crime), were all terrorists, there's a lost of prisoners leaked during negotiations and the majority of prisoners were there for "Suspicions of [something]". Imagine raping children in jail because a soldier during an illegal occupation thought the child was suspicious?
can't enforce violence to civilians, but cant deny the desperation that people have when a fascist ethnostate is doing all it can to maximise the human misery of people who's land they stolen.
I don't really care. I'm tired of seeing news since I was born that say "Palestinian terrorist representatives launched rocket attacks into israel.." Delete as appropriate for time period : 2000 dead/200 dead /20 dead/0 dead because of the iron dome , "Retaliation by Israel has bombed 8 hospitals and killed 10,000 palestininans"
Great, fuck them both. If the Palestinians got the same support israel did, the casualties would just be higher and nothing would change.
So you are in favour of genocide, because the people being genocided are resisting the genocide?
you are an idiot,
Nope, I am in favour of a ceasefire. Doesn't mean I'm pro either side.
cease fire? for how long? with the illegal siege? the only solution is the end of apartheid
Omg could it be that it never was a war (a confrontation between two sovereign countries) and more like an internal uprising against a genocide?
Israel's government issued a formal declaration of war against Hamas on 7th October 2023. But that doesn't give it the right to attack Syria.
You don't need to recognise the entity you are declaring war against as a state to do so. Cameroon declared war against Ambazonia (separatist group) on 4th December 2017.
Notably for this conflict, the First Syrian Republic declared war against Israel in 1948. While the two never agreed to a peace treaty, the First Syrian Republic no longer exists, nor its successor, nor its successor's successor, Israel's attack against Syria is—to put it very, very generously—of extremely dubious legality under international law. I don't claim to be an expert in international law, but after the Assad regime was overthrown, I would consider the new Syrian Arab Republic as a legally different polity than its predecessor. I don't recall hearing any confirmations from the new Syrian government that they want to continue war against Israel, so if that is all correct then Israel just attacked a neutral country that so happened to be populated by Arabs sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, which is honestly par for the course for the Israeli military.
No, it's been a war for a while. It was even called the six day war. Also, it's been a war between palestine and israel, it's just that the palestinians have barely any resources, and israel is armed to the teeth.
Not a war, but mass murder and genocide. But an Israeli defender like you would never call the conflict by it's real name
What fucking israel defender? My line is "fuck them both"
You just called it a war between Palestine and Israel, when it was Hamas who attacked (after Israel having been committing genocide for decades)
Get your facts straight, Zionist piece of shit
Good luck with attracting people to your side 👍
Much easier my way than by murdering thousands of children like Israeli do
ah yes its "just" that. Phew.
Denialist much?
you guys need to start learning english before you comment on shit.
Just doesn't mean justice. It's used in this context to indicate the only difference, since if the firepower roles were reversed, the situation would still be the exact same.
Anyone throwing their support behind either side thinking they're all sunshine and rainbows is an idealistic , blinded idiot.
Ah yes, "it was self-defense"
It’s wild that suddenly Iranian officers are the good guys to young North American kids who grew up raised on blood money from when you invaded my own country. But now I need to shut up and forget the raping Americans gave us and accept that they’re once again the word police and the moral compass that tells countries across the planet what they should and shouldn’t do.
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