This kind of rhetoric doesn't sit well with me. There is a difference between being a pedophile and abusing children. Pedophilia is a mental disorder and I can imagine that being attracted to children is pretty damn terrible if you're also trying to do the right thing. I think there needs to be acceptance towards pedophilia (not towards abusing children) so that the affected people feel safe in talking about their condition and get the appropriate help (so that they don't end up abusing children).

Idk man. People who are obsessed about "killing pedophiles" and wears a "shoot your local pedophile" t-shirt are, more often than not, extrememly right-wing anti-LGBT neo-nazis and think leftists and drag queens are, somehow, "pedophiles".

Pizzagate all over again.

Depends. Are we talking paedophile in the sense of Epstein or in the sense of LGBTQ person?

Because right-wingers tend to call people who are not paedophiles paedophiles (very often just LGBTQ people), while protecting actual paedophiles like the republicans who are fighting to keep child marriage legal in the USA.

This is a very obvious trick from the right.

"Kill all pedophiles!"

Yeah most people will say pedophiles are really bad and nobody wants to defend them, so they'll either agree or let it slide. However, they're not anticipating the next part

"All trans people are pedophiles!"

"All gay people are pedophiles!"

"All immigrants are pedophiles!"

Once you define a group of people as being subhuman and unworthy of human rights, then there is a strong motivation to expand the definition of that group to include more people that a lot of people don't like and won't stick their neck out to support for fear of getting labeled as part of that group and oppressed like them. The circle then just keeps growing as the machine needs more people in the outgroup to oppose. If there is broad consensus that pedophiles (or people who commit any type of crime) are a danger so foul that the people who might commit said crime should be summarily executed to subjected to torture, then oppressed minority groups will just be identified with said crime. Think about how panic about urban theft and murder was used to advance policies that harm racial minorities in the late 20th century, and how panic about "bolshevism" was a major driving force of the Holocaust. Nothing good comes from this path.

I've seen too much right-wing LGBT = pedophilia propaganda to jump at this one.

No one's going to argue that there aren't going to be edge cases that are hard to criticize, but in general, supporting any kind of systemic vigilante justice always leads incredibly quickly to innocent people getting lynched and cycles of reciprocal violence.

When you want to do violence but it's generally frowned upon so you have to find a way to justify it

Depends.

Pedophilia is likely an inherent sexual attraction, much like being straight, or LGBTQ+. It appears that the sexual attraction is not something that the person has control over. There's no good evidence that it can be changed. Some pedophiles are also sexually attracted to age-appropriate partners, some appear to be exclusively attracted to children. Moreover, it appears to split into nepophilia (infants, toddlers), pedophilia (pre-pubescent children older than toddlers), and ephebophilia (pubescent children and post-pubescent children younger than the legal age of consent).

Epstein appears to have been attracted to post-pubescent girls younger below the age of consent, but he also seems to have had sexual relationships with adult women. E.g., he wasn't exclusively a pedophile.

Child molestation is a completely different matter. Child molesters can be pedophiles, but they can also be opportunistic sexual predators. A significant amount of child molestation is also incest, e.g., a parent or close relative (almost always male) using a child for sexual gratification because they can (proximity, opportunity), rather than preferring children. Either way, child molesters that sexually abuse children are very high risk offenders; they are often very, very likely to commit the same crime repeatedly.

So, I'd draw the line a line between someone that's sexually attracted to minors, and someone that acts. The child molester? Yeah, fuck 'em with a chainsaw. Pedophiles that haven't yet done anything (including grooming!)? No.

Not if they aren't acting on it, geez.

If they woke up one day, realized to their horror they wanted to do some fucked up shit, and then just never did, that's crappy for them to have to deal with, and they're a champion for not making it anybody else's problem.

Well, I understand your emotions but there are more civilized ways to deal with this problem.

What's with all the anti-republican propaganda on here these days?

As a Trump supporter this post directly attacks me.

Edit: The people that took this post seriously should touch some grass

Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.

Pedophilia is a mental disorder Just saying mind your words

Pedophiles did nothing wrong

Pedocriminals did

Sorry but what the actual fuck are these comments???

Lemmy: yeh punch a nazi haha that's awesome and deserved and cool

Also Lemmy: nooo don't be mean to pedophiles they're just misunderstood waaahhh it's all QAnon propaganda

Fuck anyone who thinks abusing children is fine and normal. Fuck you all so hard to hell. Get the absolute fuck away from my kids.

I'm pretty damn left, but I have zero empathy at all for anyone who is thinking sexual shit about children. I'm livid. Holy shit.

I support treating pedos and murdering offenders. I don't think you're guilty until having done anything.

Beating up Trump, Musk and co? Hell yeah.