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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Tolkien also created complete Languages for each race of his stories.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sometimes I think he just liked world-building, and writing stories about his world came second.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From reading his biography, it seemed he mostly liked creating languages and then crafted stories and worlds based off them.

Tolkien's the GOAT.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He was a philology teacher, so that's indeed the case. You see it with how much details the language have, like real languages dialects and evolution. It was really his craft.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Philology Professor at Oxford, no less.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He only wanted to create languages, for fun... but he wanted to do it properly, so he needed full cultural backgrounds for his languages, including epic poetic sagas written in said languages... and to do that properly he needed a whole history of the world said languages and cultures had developed in... so the maniac built that. And then he wrote a children's book set in that world, for his kids, as one does.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

They are called Paracosms. He was writting languages during his teens long before he got to stories.

Middle earth is the first item on the list of examples on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

It’s not impossible! It’s fairly niche and finding others who appreciate it before the age of the internet would’ve been tough.

Modern Tolkien would’ve probably been part of the various conlang communities, doing challenges and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

Not only the languages but also an etymology for them to explain, how they developed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wish he was better at naming characters though. Not every son needs a name that starts with the same letter as his father's.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What, you aren't a fan of Aenor, son of Agenor, son of Agenar, son of Agenup, son of Ageflip, son of Agintur, Slayer of B'Thal'Muun?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Frank Herbert: Giant sandworms lol. /j

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Frank Herbert: ... and dogs that are also chairs... rips bong... chairdogs

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Duncan, Duncan, Duncan, Duncan

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol Herbert had some weird fantasy about a guy named Duncan from Idaho. Only explanation for some of that stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Frank Herbert is what happens when a genius writer takes too much shrooms while studying dunes. Like that is literally what happened.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Fuckin Herbert just decided to write philosophy disguised as a sci-fi story lol

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

Tolkien is clearly the best, but I don’t have a problem with Martin borrowing from real-life history. History is incredibly cool, and full of amazing stories. Stealing from other authors is bullshit, though.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Then you have the author of Twilight that started world building after the first book, created a number of characters with interesting background lore, then proceeded to do nothing with any of it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's even worse than that - Twilight was originally fanfic for Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles series, so it's all just Lestat with a fake mustache and sparkles.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And 50 shades was a Twilight fanfic...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

And Interview with the Vampire was fanfic based on a cross between Blacula and the David Frost interview of Richard Nixon...

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

George Lucas: Let someone else handle it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

as long as the broads are wearin' short skirts

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

“There's no underwear in space.”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

George Lucas: I like money

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, fun fact: Tolkien converted C.S. Lewis to Christianity, who almost immediately disappointed him by adopting Anglicanism instead of Catholicism and then decided Tolkien's stories weren't Christian enough, so he basically wrote the Narnia books out of spite.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't cite the deep lore to me witch

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Steven Erikson: here's a world that contains millennia of anthropologically grounded cultures that got spiced up by some interdimensional elves, orcs, gods & dragons that me and my buddy use to play D&D in, have fun reading through the eyes of over 1000 characters lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Erikson ruined fantasy novels for me. Book of the Fallen was the most challenging and rewarding read of my life. It made almost everything else feel like YA fiction.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

GRRM wrote "Sandkings" which is one of my favorite novellas ever. He gets a pass from me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah the Hobbit was the first book I ever read, at six years old, lucky me I became a lifetime nerd

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Writing world building is fun!

Writing actual fiction is boring and dull because if it's not a monomyth your editor is gonna removed about it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Then write a children's book in it."

That is exactly why Stephen Colbert, king of LOTR trivia, does not like The Hobbit.

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