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Highlights: To watch Pence on the trail these days is to see a man navigating the awkward, abrupt transition from being next in the line of presidential succession just four years ago to backbencher status among the Republican field. You can see him grapple with his own political mortality, working it out in public.

Since disclosing that he has just $1.2 million cash left, alongside more than $620,000 in debt, Pence’s presidential campaign has not said whether he has qualified for the third debate in Miami next month; he’s reached the polling minimum but not the donor threshold.

Nearly six months into his presidential campaign, and fewer than 90 days until the Iowa caucuses, Pence is not seeing massive crowds like his former running mate Donald Trump, or his fellow Midwesterner Vivek Ramaswamy, or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, or even his longtime frenemy, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. Thirty folks at Penn Drug store in Sidney on a recent Friday morning; another 30 at the Olive Branch Restaurant in Greenfield that afternoon; 60 at a senior center in Glenwood the next day. Nor is he seeing anything but single-digit backing in polls. In Iowa, he’s currently averaging just 2.6 percent among Republican voters.

It’s difficult to find a political prognosticator who is not on his payroll who gives Pence any plausible shot at winning the nomination, a reality he acknowledged on the trail earlier this month. “The media has already decided how all this is going to end,” he told just 13 people at a Pizza Ranch in Red Oak.

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This lack of support from the Republican base is substantially the result of Pence not cooperating with a fascist coup, and I don't think folks properly appreciate how incredibly ominous that is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They'll definitely keep trying too.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

As an outside observer, it seems they don't have anything else. What's their platform really? Just stuff that is not popular with the broad majority (like abortion or LBTQ+ rights) and being against whatever the Democrats are doing. That's just pathetic for one of the two biggest parties.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Mike Pence is pretty far out there, as in he is pretty crazy on many points.
But that's not crazy enough for modern Republicans. Today you need to be bat shit insane to have a chance as a republican.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That, and the Trump sycophants now want his head because they somehow believe that he had the ability to nullify the 2020 election and place Trump in the presidency, which he did not do -- for reasons that are blatantly obvious to anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes as in Republican is the one true religion, if you don't have 100% faith even against evidence, you are a heretic.
Republican is not about politics anymore, it's a cult. A death cult to be precise.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you mean it's a cult? It's not like they're making golden statues of their supposed messiah or anything! Oh wait..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is the sort of thing I would normally call bullshit on. Some idiot being idiot and the whole group getting called on it. Exactly the sort of thing conservatives would play.

"LOOK! See how nuts the libs are!?"

Except this was at CPAC (Conservative Political Action Conference).

Read on if your stomach is strong.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/golden-trump-statue-cpac-implies-he-s-king-gop-his-ncna1259362

I ain't even got the strength to go into Old Testament, golden idols, conservative Christians, all that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just gotta suck russian dick and you’re all set.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yes, and that's pretty insane IMO. All the same "values" as a Russian totalitarian. I bet Russians are super happy with Putin's shitshow, and Republicans want the same for USA!

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Was he ever a favorite of the right? I thought he was pretty unpopular as governor in Indiana.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

His purpose was to get more religious crazies on Trump's side. Other than that, Republicans didn't like him.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like a lot of the religious seem to follow Trump regardless. For some reason they buy it when he says his favorite book is the bible and that's he's a Christian. Also, they don't seem to believe Obama when he says he's a Christian...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

If they knew their messiah was a Middle-Eastern Jewish Socialist they'd die of anurisms. I wish they could read...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They would have literally killed him if he didn't slip away.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I always thought he was super popular with the evangelicals and that those folks are declining in numbers. The way I see it, younger conservatives aren’t as religious and are just spiteful towards the left; when you’re spiteful you want a loud mouth candidate who’ll legitimize your beliefs.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

god what a sad, beautiful ending

seeing him rot in public as everyone realizes in real time he is not what politics is anymore. no one wants a clean cut boring guy who's secretly gay and also evil. their time is over.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

But who they do want is far more terrifying.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Mike Pence is a piece of shit that clings to power like a horny dog clings to a leg.

And right now, theres no obvious power going forward to hitch himself to, Thanks to the lawsuits, trials and guilty pleas that are already coming out against Trump, and the rest of the Republican Party collapsing around him due to petty infighting, bullshit, and fanatical fascism.

So that leaves Pence hanging like a damp flag in a windless sky.

Limp, ineffectual, and below notice.

But hey, at least hes not doing active harm to the country at the moment, like wanting to use medicare to torture people straight... Again.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's where the best pizzas are raised, free range and natural as god intended. The pizza wranglers are the most talented in the world, after all you have to be something special to be able to lasso a pizza when it's at full gallop!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

You really haven't had pizza until you've had grass-fed pizza.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Serious reply: Southeast/midwestern pizza buffet brand

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine one of those combined Pizza Hut/KFC stores from the 90's, except it's just one big combined buffet of pizza and fried chicken, and the whole place is cowboy themed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I'm at the pizza ranch. I'm at the Pence event. I'm at the combination pizza ranch and Pence event.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

what even is a pizza ranch

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Its a pizza buffet. You pay $25 to eat all the okayest pizza thats been sitting under a heat lamp for an hour that you want.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

$25!? No wonder no one showed up.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mines $20 and also has fried chicken, a bunch of sides, and salad. It's not the best buffet in town but it's pretty ok. Also when you are allowed to request pizzas and then those are put out fresh.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Asking the important question. I assume it's the ranch where they make all the pizzas for the entire world. Big Pizza doesn't want the public to know about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I think there’s a meeting every so often with elites called the Pizzaburg Group where they decide where the ranch is every year.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Burying the lede.

What the duck is a pizza ranch and where can I find one?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're a Jesus in your face pizza chain kind of like chick fil a. It's really bad pizza and it's buffet style so it's assy and cold.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it’s like Cici’s but more like Kaykaykay’s?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idk cicis the kkk is spot on

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cici’s is a pizza buffet with all you can eat pizza for such a shockingly low price you have to assume it’s like 30% wet cardboard, which the taste supports. It’s where college students go to win bets on whether they can eat fifty slices of pizza and it ends up costing like $3.99.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

lol. Fuck every single piece of republican traitor filth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

And he's unpopular for doing the right thing. The Trump team wanted him to help them steal the election and he didn't do it. Because of that the MAGAs dragged a full size gallows to the Capitol Building and started chanting 'hang Mike Pence'. I'm surprised he even has the nerve to campaign given how much the followers want him dead.

The thing is - he didn't even have the power to do what they wanted him to do, he couldn't have swung it even if he wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't believe he hasn't thrown in the towel already. No one likes him on either side of the aisle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He must really want to be president. He's also 64, this is pretty much the last chance. Can't play the long game like Paul Ryan who's sitting the mess out.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It’s highly egotistical and clueless of pence to think he had a chance. My main question about this article though was not about him, but wtf is a “pizza ranch”. That’s how exciting Pence is.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Republicans want to hang Mike Pence, not hang with Mike Pence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

lol “they’re saying boo-urns”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

At what point does Pence wake TF up? His base wanted to hang him. For following the Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It's the Trump kiss: everything he touches towns to shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Thoughts and prayers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I must have misplaced the world's smallest violin. It was very little.

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