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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"you also do that" implies the above isn't actually a myth.

Seriously though, there are at least three groups of homeless with some overlap:

  • people who had a hard time, lost everything, but if given opportunity they will use it to recover
  • addicts, for whom the addiction drive them to homelessness, they need to go to rehab, before they can be helped (seems like this meme refers to them)
  • mentally ill, who don't have family, or family doesn't care about them. They need medical attention. Those are the hardest especially since most don't want to be helped
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

addicts, for whom the addiction drive them to homelessness, they need to go to rehab, before they can be helped (seems like this meme refers to them)

The meme refers to the people who believe every homeless person falls into this category and not the other two.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Also, long term use of certain substances will often lead to permanent mental impairment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Having a home makes it far easier to kick an addiction.

Do you think if you got addicted, it would be easier for you to kick the addiction if you kept your home, or if you lost it? Same thing with mental illness or any other problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Addicts destroy everything they’re around though. It’s easy to say “oh just give them a house”, until they’ve pulled all the drywall off and ripped all the copper out of the walls to sell for a fix, broken all the windows, and generally destroyed the place.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

I wish, some of it gets squandered on rent.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, I spend that money on sweets and soda, which will kill me much faster than alcohol and drugs would

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Overdosing on sweets will get you diabetes. Overdosing on drugs and alcohol will get you death.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And diabetes never killed anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Overdosing on sweets will get you diabetes.

You think diabetes doesn't mean death?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither does drug addiction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, if you overdose it does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

...and if you can't afford insulin, diabetes will kill you even faster.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I spent most of my money on booze, fdm printing, and video games. The rest of it I wasted.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

At this point, professional panhandlers are a much worse stigma. There aren’t many, but you can bet the panhandlers in the best spots, the most outgoing ones, are the pros.

Actually, I’ve found that I don’t even have a choice about whether to trust that someone is truly in need, since I almost never carry cash

But yeah, I mostly gave up when a guy asked for $5 for food at McDonalds and I got him food from McDonalds, and he tossed it on the ground and vandalized my car. It turns out he was one of the most notorious professional panhandlers in my city, and most definitely NOT in need. I decided I can’t tell or I’m a sucker, but it’s probably more effective to help organizations who do this every day

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

when I was on the streets I could not believe just how much money professional panhandlers made.

I'm talking like a couple of hundred a day, depending on the time of month and the location.

I myself could never participate in panhandling, even as a junkie I had self respect lol

I was always worried about someone I knew noticing, but some people have zero problems begging for money, the beggars would brag about how soft people were, especially older women, zero respect

I've been clean for over 10 yrs and my sober life is great, all of these panhandlers are addicts, they are all redeemable

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Excellent job getting out from under that!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Therefore...

...YOU are homeless!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

By the transitive properties of tequila and codine, you are now homeless!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t. So, I should stop giving money to homeless? I am confused.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No... clearly you should start doing drugs and alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Best advice I've read on Lemmy so far.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe he should become homeless first?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, as someone who enjoys drinking and occasionally other legal drugs, I have to admit OP has made me second guess my POV a bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No, OP’s claim is bogus. Sure, I do use a small portion of my income for vices, for escapism, just like most people. But I don’t use it instead of food. I don’t use it to the extent that it keeps me from paying for the rest of life. I don’t use it to the extent that I can’t function in society.

There’s a huge difference between wasting some money on a vice/escapism, and that vice/escapism becoming your life. I don’t know if it’s just addiction or desperation, or how close we could all be to that pit of despair, but there is clearly a huge difference between using a bad habit to cope with life and your bad habit becoming your life

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