How did high power lights even damage the windows so badly that they are literally missing?
this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
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"The lights, which were intended to give the illusion of a sunrise, were placed about 20 to 30 feet from the aircraft, shining on first the right, then the left side of the craft for over nine hours in total.
A foam liner had melted away from at least one of the windows and several window panes appeared to have been warped by the thermal heat. "
I’m surprised by that, because I’m having a hard time picturing a setup that was all that much hotter than, say, sitting on the tarmac in Phoenix in the summer.
Stage lights are hot as fuck dude, even hung from rafters you can feel their directionality on stage.
Hell find someone who likes flashlights and ask to borrow a 1000 lumen lights then shine it at your hand, it gets noticeably hot very rapidly.
I still can't believe collecting flashlights is a real hobby.
Yeah..... Me too..... I Don't at all have several....
I get it, but if you work in a trade flashlights are part of life and a shitty one legit ruins your day. (Like I've legit gone office space printer style on more than one for being junk and fucking up when least appropriate)
I have nothing against the hobby, I just don't get it myself. The hobby definitely makes more sense if you actually use flashlights very often.
Yeah one fleshlight is more than enough for me.
Especially from 20 feet away
Am I missing something or is the term "thermal heat" just stupid? Are they trying to sound? Or is there some other meaning of heat that I'm unaware of and that would make sense in this context and therefore the description is needed?
I'm genuinely confused...
Huh, to be honest, when i read this, it didn't connect with me how the lights made window panes disappear. were the window panes missing before the flight? It doesn't seem like the window panes fell on anyone or nearby property.
"One shattered window pane was later recovered from the runway during a routine inspection."
It's likely the crew was using fresnel lights which are bright and very hot. You can easily burn yourself or set fire to delicate objects after prolonged use. Not impossible to imagine a crew member moving the lights, leaving them on and highly focused to imitate a distant light source; like a magnifying glass under the sun.
In the article it says the frames were melted by heat from the lights.
I imagine the film crew took out the windows so that they could shine the lights into the plane.
Just FYI, I know English is hard, but "a" means one not two.
They did discover a missing window pane. They discovered some more too but at least one. 😉
Here's the Instagram account for the article's author. I don't know if she's on lemmy so there's no guarantee she'll see your comment here.
Why use an actual in-service aircraft and not a mock-up or a fuselage from a retired or otherwise out of service aircraft?
It was probably more cost-effective.
Probably won’t be now that they’ll have to fix the aircraft.
The missing windows weren’t discovered until the plane was climbing at an altitude of 13,000 feet, according to the AAIB report.
“Several passengers recalled that after takeoff the aircraft cabin seemed noisier and colder than they were used to,” investigators wrote. A crew member walked towards the back of the aircraft, where he spotted a window seal flapping on the left side of the aircraft.
Wait wouldn't there also be a lot more pressure that you would feel from the suction of the missing window or would that only be felt by people at the back of the plane?
From the photo it looks like the inner window panes were still intact. That would be enough to keep the plane pressurised, I'm guessing. For a while at least.
Those windows are really thin plastic and are supported by the plastic trim and panels on the aircraft interior. They are highly unlikely to support much pressurization. Air would have escaped around them via under the panels and through panel seams.
Sure, but the engine bleed air would have been constantly replacing it, so it's plausible the cabin altitude lagged behind the aircraft altitude.
Less pressure, pretty sure, and if the lowering was gradual enough, you might not feel it. Dunno for sure.
Not with the windows missing the whole time and at 13,000 feet.
Maybe I missed this on reading (and rereading) the article, but do they mention the airline?
Well that’s terrifying