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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (18 children)

So hilarious to see this on this sub after people assured me time and time again that "we only pirate because prices are too high!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I pirate because it's more convenient, surprisingly I don't pirate games and music because of steam and spotify, steam is just convenient, so is spotify it's more convenient than fucking around with finding music you like

movies/tv shows it's more convenient to have my own plex server

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We pirate because we're selfish but use every excuse in the book to convince ourselves otherwise...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I don’t pirate games because Steam just makes it more convenient, and sites like IsThereAnyDeal make it easy to find sales.

However, as someone that’s been a hobbyist developer for 15 years, and never really been able to overcome the imposter syndrome to be able to publish anything, I’d be happy if someone thought my game was even worth the time to pirate, much less be paid for.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I will torrent the latest movie, but I will buy the latest album from my favorite band directly off Bandcamp. Might even buy a t-shirt or some stickers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think for movies and music this is totally true. Video games less so but not impossible

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I can't think of the last game I wanted to play that wasn't cracked within week 1

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Piracy is whatever. Using an old school ass MP3 player in 2023 is unhinged though. I'm sure their phone can do whatever that MP3 player can do just as easily.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What a twat. Imagine your personality being you don't support creatives because you are addicted to stealing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The RIAA drove me to piracy in the early days.

Then stuff like Google Play music came along and I stopped because I can actually pay for basically any song I want to listen to, all at my fingertips and that is still true. It makes me happy to support the artists and their music though I know they don't get very much of the cut.

The MPAA was much of the same story.

Then Netflix happened and I was all set for the same thing to happen, but it didn't. Now streaming is almost as fractured as cable TV packages, and I went right back to piracy.

Screw it. I don't feel bad about it because they haven't shown any regard for the people they continually exploit, namely their customers. They don't give any shits if I financially sink while trying to afford to enjoy the things that they make, so I won't give any shits about their financial situation while I enjoy it anyways. Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

From Limewire to QBitorrent, I've been sailing since I've had a computer.
It's crazy that people aren't aware of the alternatives out there, when all it takes is a little googling. But I guess that's just a sign that the likes of Netflix and Spotify have a stranglehold on mainstream consumers though

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or, pirate because it’s what Jesus would do.

Jesus 2024 gets sent straight to jail for just copy pasting everything for everybody, completely ruining the economy. You wouldn’t just download food for the hungry? Think about the corpo farms.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay for netflix, prime, disney+, paramount+, youtube premium, nebula, and a few more services. I buy music and movies, if available, on bluray and rip them to my own jellyfin server.

And yet, about 20% of what I watch, I've got to pirate because there's no reasonable way to actually watch it. Legal ways often only have the German dub, or are lower quality.

(When I was younger, my family was relatively poor, so back then I obviously pirated everything, but once I could afford it I wiped my entire collection and bought the exact same content properly again, for moral reasons obviously but also because I prefer to do rips myself so they've got proper quality).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Ironically piracy actually costs more than streaming if you intend to preserve media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so?

I have 32tb, bit overkill 8 tb HDD ~$180 X4= $720

Netflix (no ads) 22.99 22.99/720=31.3

As long as you use it for 3 or so years, it pays for itself. The only difference is you have both the hardware and the movies forever.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Not really over a 5 year period, especially if you talk about more than a single subscription service. If you mean by preserve as keeping a full 3-2-1 backup, then yeah sure, but most people don't need that. Double backup the truly important/rare content, everything else can be redownloaded in case of tragedy.

For posterity, 1 year of HBO Max or Disney+ is $150. Over 5 years that's $750. If you are someone who knows you annually rewatch content, then that's likely a guaranteed expense. Btw, if you pay month to month unless it's less than 8 months of the year, monthly is more expensive, so I'm being generous here. No managing monthly subscriptions is also a major benefit.

That price nets you at least six 8TB HDD's at $109 each, which 48TB is far more storage than most people would ever need so some of that cost can go to a power efficient Optiplex and some to spare for a VPN leaving you with at least 32TB.

As mentioned, each additional streaming service is going to exponentially increase that cost, further justifying your investment, and the peace of mind that whatever service hasn't removed it.

Technically you use your time to pay for "setting up and maintaining it" but... That's some BS honestly. Plex/Jellyfin are set up once and forget about them. Us nerds put in time to curate and go the extra mile, but most people can very easily have a simple low power server running. If they can set up the *arrs (not really very hard) then good automation for them, if not manually searching for what you want as you want it is one more step than a subscription. More steps if you need to sign up for the first time ;)

Granted - a streaming service doesn't charge you $325 for the initial server+storage, however streaming services also don't give you a lot of things for 2.10 years of streaming so I'd say it's worth the investment. And it definitely does not cost more to preserve your media if you subscribe to more than 1 service. If you subscribe to only one and cancel monthly and spend your time managing that then maybe. (but if you don't need 4k and consume that little content, you may still be better off with a Pi-like and a hard drive...)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It just makes sense.

All I see is people putting on clown makeup when they try to defend paying for a profitable product they could otherwise get for free.

Mark Twain was right. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they'd been fooled. This generation is full of proud idiots. It gives them a sense of belonging.

At least they're easy to take advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are straight up slaves to consooming. They'll find any excuse to justify it even on a damn piract sub.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I personally don't believe in copyright. Nobody should be able to own an idea or data and be able to tell me what i can and cannot do with said 1s and 0s, which is what digital media is. I will find other ways to support artists and creators like going to concerts, donating or buying merchandise etc... You can't steal data because nobody owns it to begin with in my view.

Anything confidential should be kept encrypted or offline of course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just a few days ago I pulled an old Sony's NWZ player as they still have superior audio quality compared to phones. I had to throw it away after 10+ years as the battery died.

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