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[–] [email protected] 174 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They gonna call Bernard "I got into politics because my extended family literally died in the holocaust" Sanders antisemitic now?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people,” the Vermont senator said in a statement.

Seems like his views on this are pretty much aligned with that of typical israelis.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Aren't most Israelis calling for the expulsion of Palestinians from the region?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

idk about a majority....There was a massive protest outside Netanyahu's house.

Israeli's are bombing their own civilians that are being held hostage right now. They are killing their own as if they are disposable.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And yet that's the same view that has had people screaming about anti-semitism for the past month.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Senator Sanders is in lockstep with Biden & rest of Democratic caucus's view here. There is a big push not to lose the path for a two-state solution and to pause West Bank settlement expansion. Wouldn't be surprised if President Biden's friend Bernard consulted with him about this beforehand.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's almost like it's a complex problem with no easy solution

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

complex problem

It's amazing how "westerners" always hide behind "complexity" when it comes to the white supremacist colonialism they've helped create...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

That was 75 years ago my guy, neither of us had anything to do with it

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Most of the "complexity" comes from the fact that Israel directly funded Hamas while sabotaging every attempt for a moderate, secular Palestinian state, with the deliberate intention to create a propaganda-friendly enemy that they can justify war crimes against and eradicate Palestinians under the guise of collateral damage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So was South Africa and the Native Americans and the racial relations in the US and countless other situations but we still try to inrpove them.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 2 years ago (10 children)

This man could have been the president

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Not if the DNC had anything to do about it, and they did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

After all, they're part of The Big Club.

(NSFW - language)

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don't deserve social democracy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don’t deserve social democracy.

Not with that attitude we don't.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

that kind of defeatism guarantees that we will never have a morally upstanding president.

You are a part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sanders would not get everything he wants done in a term, but any progress is better than our current puppet presidents

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Nah, tho. Young people didn’t vote in high enough numbers. Depressing. I voted Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't. I was wrong. I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

At least you own it. That's progress.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Several million young prospective voters were prevented from voting by going to college in states that don't allow out of state resident voting and not being able to vote in their home states on a Tuesday.

Add the fact that colleges are typically critically underserved when it comes to voting infrastructure, leading to a requirement to stand in line for the equivalent of a full-time job working day and it's clear that it's not young people being too apathetic.

It's politicians ratfucking them almost as much as they ratfuck people of color and people of color have much better get out the vote infrastructure to counteract it than colleges do.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As usual, the voice of sanity.

As usual, he'll be declared unrealistic and unreasonable for it by his own lesser peers and party.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Oh, centrists and trumpists are gonna identically hate this.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have a better idea... why doesn't the US just stop funding murderous fascism everywhere period?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Because being morally upstanding doesn't work when every other country is trying to outmaneuver you geopolitically.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, poor, poor US... forced to be the most prolific funder and enabler of fascist terrorism in human history because somebody else twisted it's arm.

Poor, poor US.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

So maintaining global dominance is so important the US just has to enable war crimes and ethnic cleansing? That’s the logic of fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

because people still live in the countries even if the governments are bad.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about just not giving Israel aid, period?

If its capable of launching a genocidal crusade, it must be developed and stable enough to not need our fucking purse strings holding it up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a bit more complex than that A random idiot 😔

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't tell if you're insulting the person to whom you replied or signing off on your own comment.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We already have laws that prohibit giving military aid to genocidal regimes.

We're just ignoring them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people

A nuanced view? Is that allowed?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

That would be the place (the Senate) to do it, not the Presidency.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bernard not doing so hot here in the morals. Even his own staff are condemning him for siding with the oppressors.

Seems like AOC is the only one with a backbone.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

This just proves that Sanders is the biggest antisemite. /s

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