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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“It’s a messy situation, but generally it’s very safe and it works well,”

Reminds me of the traffic situation in eastern Asia. Huge amounts of cars, scooters etc. mostly ignoring any traffic rules. From an outside perspective it looks like there must be thousands of injuries a day but considering the vast amount of individuals it's still pretty safe and efficient.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Traffic deaths in Thailand are 60 per 100.000 vehicles. In the Netherlands is 6. It's 10 times a deadly...

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's 27 in mississippi, so only about twice as deadly.

Edit, actually, let's revisit the data. You said 60 per 100000 vehicles, if you shift that to population, the data point I used, it becomes 32. Only slightly more deadly than living in the southern US

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that says a lot about Mississippi

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Its a pretty similar statistic for most rural states.

Consider that the population is lower but the ratio of people driving is much higher. Less cities, more people have to commute 30-60 minutes, etc.

Part of it is poor infrastructure, yeah(the other southern rural states with similar stats track a better record comparatively based on quality of infrastructure by my own personal anecdote of having driven/lived in them), but it's just predominantly the ratio of drivers to non drivers as the key factor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Florida looks around sweating nervously over lack of guardrails

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Don't forget all the meth

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

That's pretty good!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So 0.6% chance of being a vehicle owner being involved in a fatal accident over a ten year timespan? 0.06% over a single year?

Sounds pretty safe to me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The injury rate is about 70 times higher though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The point I’m trying to make is that absolute risk numbers are far more useful than stating relative risk, especially once we get below the average person’s acceptable risk tolerance. Saying “this country is xx times safer than this country” can be misleading.

For example, if we consider a hypothetical country that has 1 traffic death per 100,000 vehicles you could make the statement that, “the Netherlands has 6x more traffic deaths than hypothetical country!” It would make the Netherlands seem like a dangerous place to live, but I’d wager that the vast majority of people would feel perfectly comfortable with the idea of being in traffic in the Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My Dad has experienced traffic like this. He said having strict rules is often worse because you expect others to follow the rules and then they don't, people die. There's a sort of complacency involved with rigid rules.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Complacency and entitlement. Like letting a guy merge into you instead of evading because “well he was supposed to yield!” People will fully crash their car if they think they’re “right”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Sounds like you mean South &/or Southeast Asia and not East Asia (or perhaps just Asia in general rather than subdividing)? Within Asia, injury/fatality rates seems to increase as you go westward.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Scientists have found that bats collide into each other more often than they thought.

I read this as if the bats had thought they didn't collide with each other and had a chuckle.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

That's the correct way to read it ;p

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Haha, "I don't know about those other bats, but I feel like I'm pretty good..."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

ThT was a wonderful video thank you for sharing. Anyone who wants to just see one bay crash, 5:25 I think it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone have a link to this video that does not force me to watch two 40s pro-israel propaganda videos before it starts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, just get an adBlocker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For the people who don't want turn off their adblocker. It just links to youtube anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPEPX4z4KBw#t=5m24s

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes me feel better that bats are as uncoordinated as me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Now hold on a minute...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Wassa matter with you? you blind?!" "Yes."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Bats aren't blind

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a study about the same thing but with bees?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah. And he's Hammerhead Bat too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[I got a bot to automatically delete all my comments over 1 month old so you can't see this comment anymore]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Bats are dumb as crap lol