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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm only going to say one thing in these Henry Kissinger threads: Good fucking riddance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

While this man lived to 100 and nothing ever bad came his way... Part of me would've liked for him to suffer but at least he's gone now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I asked CoPilot to summary the page, which really is a good read; I do encourage you to read the full article if the following summary piques your interest. the "undefined paper" listed as reference is the linked article. copilot goes "private" when inquiring about web pages for whatever reason.


This article is an obituary of Henry Kissinger, a former U.S. national security adviser and secretary of state, who died at the age of 100. The article criticizes Kissinger as a war criminal who was responsible for millions of deaths in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, and other countries. The article also argues that Kissinger helped shape the world order that is now collapsing, and that he was never held accountable for his crimes. Some of the main points of the article are:

  • Kissinger sabotaged peace talks in Vietnam: He leaked information to Nixon's campaign in 1968 to prevent a deal between Johnson and Hanoi, prolonging the war for four more years and killing millions of people.
  • Kissinger orchestrated the coup in Chile: He supported the overthrow of the democratically elected socialist president Salvador Allende in 1973, and backed the brutal dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet, who tortured and killed thousands of dissidents and implemented neoliberal policies that harmed the majority of Chileans.
  • Kissinger enabled genocide and repression: He ignored or encouraged the atrocities committed by U.S. allies in Bangladesh, East Timor, Indonesia, Pakistan, and elsewhere, and participated in Operation Condor, a campaign of assassinations of left-wing activists across Latin America.
  • Kissinger expanded U.S. bombing and intervention: He secretly bombed Cambodia and Laos, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and paving the way for the Khmer Rouge genocide. He also set the precedent for U.S. presidents to bomb countries without congressional or public oversight, as seen in the War on Terror.
  • Kissinger was celebrated by the U.S. elite: He received praise and awards from presidents, politicians, journalists, and academics, who admired his geopolitical strategy and ignored or justified his crimes. He was also an informal adviser to several administrations, including Bush and Obama¹[1].

Source: Conversation with Bing, 11/29/2023 (1) The paper .... undefined.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The “Behind the Bastards” on Kissinger is great: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hPPW9eQnOCc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Satan took a look at the new arrival, and thought to himself, “Wow. Like, coming from me, wow..."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Fuck Rolling Stone though. I still have no respect for them after the UVA thing. (and to much lesser extent their recent 250 guitarists list) what a joke of a publication.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

comparing a convicted terrorist to a government official? if you're going to do that at least stay in the same decade, not jump 20+ years into the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What are you saying?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The man who negotiated the first SALT treaty with USSR in 1969, which somehow held until START II in 1993 which never really took effect, sadly. He opened up relations between USA and China in 1971. He led the peace process between Vietnam and the US (leading to his Nobel Peace Prize).

This article is absurd bullshit in how much guilt it lays on Kissinger. For instance, it alludes that the Cambodian genocide was due to Kissinger, while in reality, it was Pol Pot 100%. Even if there are circumstances that lead to committing genocide, country leaders are not unthinking animals with no free will. Pol Pot decided to do this, it's on him, and it's one of the many atrocities communist countries have done. You cannot just bullshit your way out of that, no matter how much you like communism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kissinger bombed hundreds of thousands of innocent Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian civilians, and they gave him a fucking peace prize because he finally stopped.

He is responsible for Pol Pot's rise to power so he's indirectly to blame for Pol Pot's regime. You can't bomb a country to hell and not be responsible for the aftermath.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their neighbors are Vietnam, Laos and Thailand. First two had significant and successful communist uprisings and of course Vietnam War going on at the time. Also China directly supported Khmer Rouge, and USSR less directly. I think it's silly to place so much guilt on Kissinger when all that was going on.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

None of them attacked innocent civilians in Cambodia: Kissinger bombed innocent civilians in Cambodia. And then after it became known that Pol Pot was a genocidal lunatic, the west started supporting Pol Pot AFTER it became known what he did until his death, while the communists attacked and deposed Pol Pot.

It's always the same: the west murders indiscriminately people in the global south and then act all innocent when this radicalizes the survivors.

Edit: you also mention Vietnam. What Kissinger did there was also monstrous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

he lead the peace process in Vietnam

He sabotaged the peace process in Vietnam because it was going to happen under Johnson and he didn't want Johnson to carry that win into his election against Nixon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh look... the "War Criminal Apologetics Society" has decided to show up.