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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can’t believe it’s not OLED

[–] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They will release an OLED Edition 5 years after so you can buy it again.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jokes on you I’ll be the 0.1% that wait till before the switch 3 to buy.

[–] NECRO_PASTORAL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that could be literally 10 years from now

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago

Yea so by then I’ll have a substantial backlog haha.

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Lcd would be fine at a higher resolution imo. But... Are they staying with 720p again?

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah that sucks but if it’s a brighter high nits LCD screen than i might prefer that more on a portable device than the deep blacks of OLED. I use my OLED tv when I play at home anyway.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I can't believe it's not butter

[–] Zanz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It is very hard to get low resolution small oled screens. Cell phones use pentile displays that are about 60% the actual RGB resolution of the input they need. You would be looking at it needing to be outputting in the 4k range on a 1440p ish display to use off the shelf parts.

If you wqnted to have a 1080p RGB oled it would need to be about 11" and that is too big. It would also have burn in issues with any reasonable brightness.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have the lowest of low expectations for Nintendo consoles. They're always filled to the brim with gimmicks, that while creative, are not fun to use and then the best games are always ones that completely disregard the gimmicks anyhow. I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you're playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years. They also really lost the plot on the Pokemon franchise and I feel like that will start to lose them a lot of money when people start to wake up from their comas and realize Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you’re playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years.

Isn't this basically what they did with the Switch? It's very low on gimmicks that never get used (infrared? Touchscreen?), its games on the whole look pretty good (Most first party titles), and people still play it over 6 years later. Also Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of Pokémon - so while shit, they hardly deserve the blame for that.

[–] ianis@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's a hand held console with detachable joycons

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The “joycons” don’t bring me joy. They make my hands cramp and are only full of cons.

[–] kurosawaa@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the joy cons make it great for party games, it's really convenient to get a 4 player game of Mario Cart going with just two pairs of joy cons.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Many technologies exist around the inconvenience of having small flimsy drifting controllers in a several player setting. For example: You could pair your phones via Bluetooth or internet for party games in a similar fashion to Jackbox or other party games as a controller/ data entry device.

We shouldn’t need to rely on third party applications or controllers to have a good experience with your platform, be it physically or digitally, especially when the technology has existed for many years.

And don’t even get me started on the software side experience.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah until someone gets one with drift

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You're supposed to drift in Mario Kart! /s

[–] rabirabirara@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No offense, but I and all my friends enjoy the joycons a lot. It's been wonderful in college and out. I have a sneaking suspicion the people complaining about the switch are not the... target audience anyway.

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[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Sure - but that's a gimmick that's pretty widely enjoyed. It's not like the 3DS's 3D that pretty much everyone turned off after giving it a shot, or like the Wii's motion controls that most people got sick of before the console retired. As far as gimmicks go it's arguably their most successful ever.

By that I mean the fact that it's handheld - if you were mostly talking about the detachable joycons then I'd agree at least somewhat, especially since they removed that from the Switch Lite - but it is pretty handy in a lot of situations still.

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[–] FromAbyss@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, Gamefreak has been shitting out Pokémon "games" for decades now, right? If they didn't realize that in the last 15 years, would they really care about the next 15? I almost feel like each generation becomes the "default Pokémon experience" for their players.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.

Unfortunately I doubt anything will change because people continue to buy no matter how bad it is

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Of flash memory.... I think I bought a 2TB flash card for my steam deck.

[–] phi1997@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

The Switch uses MicroSD cards too

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[–] Tevren@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really wonder if a Switch 2 will do as well as the first Switch.

More and more handheld gaming PCs are released by the time the Switch 2 comes around. Yes, a Switch 2 does have the advantage of access to Nintendo games (if we ignore Emulators) and I would imagine lower price, but I haven't touched my Switch since I got the Steamdeck. I even sold an extra Switch Lite I had.

I rarely, basically never used the Switch plugged into a TV. I only played it in handheld mode with a skin that made it more comfortable to hold than a flat brick. Nintendo games rarely drop in price and sales don't reduce prices by much VS PC games that often go on sale and older games drop to very low prices on sale.

I'm certain there's a market for a Switch 2, I'm just wondering if it will do as well as the first Switch in the current market with more options.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Most people who play Nintendo Switch do not even know what a steam deck is. The vast vast majority.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's revealing to keep in mind that the Switch sold 125 million units, and the most optimistic estimates put the number of Steam Deck sales around 3 million. Keep in mind that the Steam Deck never aimed to sell as much as major consoles, but that still shows how niche it is in comparison.

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[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

For 99+% of the Switch's target demographic, there aren't options.

They have never heard of the Deck, the Ally, or any of the other handheld PCs. They know three things about gaming: Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox. Those last two don't let them play Mario, Zelda, or Smash Bros., and they certainly don't let them play on the go, so they essentially only have one option.

I love my Deck and I hope to see the handheld PC market continue to grow and evolve, but it's just delusional to think that it will ever get to a point where it will have even the slightest impact on the third-best-selling console of all time (or, more to the point, its successor).

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'd buy a Switch 2 if I played first party Switch games at 2K/60fps. Specifically Pokemon, Zelda, and Xenoblade.

[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just to make sure, that was my point. I bought a $110 (on sale) 2tb card and expanded the memory. Games are becoming much bigger, maybe not Nintendo but the point stands. It's irritating buying an expensive purchase then having to buy more. Idk it kinds feels like I want them to offer a "complete device for the time". Comparable hardware to other entertainment systems.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago

I'm alright with the "provide a moderate amount of storage and space to upgrade it" method. Keeps the base price down, while power users can have what they want too.

I stuffed an extra 2TB SSD in my PS5 for just under £100. Now see Apple's iPad Pro pricing, where going from 128GB to 2TB adds a whopping £1250 to it, more than doubling the price.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where did you find a 2tb micro SD card? I didn't think they existed.

[–] Odum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I can't speak to their performance because they seem to be all one brand (and not a major one like SanDisk) but they ARE out there.

Only a matter of time before that territory is breached by the major player though. Nintendo themselves even have a branded 1 TB SD card (made by SanDisk ofc).

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[–] Ogygus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[–] EternalWarBear@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could just be dumb, but I hope that it'll still use the switch cartridge. Like how they did it with the DS line up until the 3DS when they changed it. I could see them potentially doing that too. If it does I'll finally jailbreak my OG switch with the tegra exploit. Just been too much of a scaredy cat to do it.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was thinking this earlier today. If they do make the switch 2 compatible with current switch games, physical and digital, it'll be a damn near instant day 1 buy for me.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

If they fix joycon drift and use the buttons they used on switch lite I'll be happy. The joycon buttons stab into my fingers.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

Make it similar enough under the hood to the switch that ryujinx just need an update to play its games.

I mean, hey great!

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just need them to confirm existing cartridges work and I am there buying it day one....

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[–] varogen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Will definitely be skipping this one. I almost never use my Switch as it is. At home, I use the PC. I can emulate single player games like Breath of the Wild. On the go, I've been enjoying mobile games on my phone (surprisingly) or I use my laptop. The Switch hasn't been a big draw.

[–] Ilikepornaddict 5 points 2 years ago

Lol seriously? I was actually planning to get this but the nore I hear about it, the more I think I'll wait a few years for the updated version to release. Nintendo doesn't make very many good games nowadays anyway.

[–] Javi_in_4k@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Wafzig@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Probably can't hit the price point or production yield to make it viable for launch.

Will probably see a version 2 after a year or so, like with Switch 1.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

less than 1tb seems pointless

[–] McBinary@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For how cheap NVMe is, it's ridiculous that any console is less than 2TB by default. It's just a way for them to monetize on selling additional storage.

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[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If it has a SD slot, 1TB seems like overkill. The top Steam Deck only has 512GB.

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[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’m fine with a 32Gb Switch, I just don’t want it to run at 720p 30fps

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[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 1 points 2 years ago

If it's 1080p then that's fine for me. An 8 inch 1080p LCD would at least slightly compare to a 720p OLED.

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