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[–] 98jf98@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (13 children)

When my American friends insist that feet and inches is just easier for them, I just nod in agreement and give them measurements using rods, chains and furlongs as well. If you're going to go Imperial, you have to know 'em all. An acre is a chain by a furlong, totally logical as that would be 4x40 rods which is of course 43560 square feet. I guess it makes complete sense when your world is only a few furlongs across.

[–] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Most people who insist that imperial is better still have absolutely no idea how many spoons there are to a cup, how many cups to a gallon, how many inches to a mile, how many square yards to an acre.

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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

how about we all agree that the best system is american units with metric prefixes. After all it is obvious that it takes an hours to drive 318 kilofeet

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

What’s that in centimiles?

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[–] kidpixo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I love the smell of Kilofeet in the morning 😂

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Technically the metric system is "the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce" as per the Metric Conversion Act of 1975.

You're just also allowed to use lbs and feet and stuff and most people do.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 25 points 2 years ago

The versions of imperial measurements the US uses are even defined in terms of metric units, so they're less a completely separate measurement system these days and more just a weird facade on top of metric, even.

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Why do they use the much more complicated system?" "Nobody actually knows."

[–] dancing_umbra@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I'm not defending it, but it's because 12 has more factors than 10

10 has 2 and 5

But 12 has 2,3,4,6

So 1/2 ft, 1/3 ft, 1/4ft and 1/6 ft all have a whole number of inches

[–] quantenzitrone@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Using a base12 system would only make sense if we all started counting in base12 too.

If enough people want that, i'd be down to start counting in base12, but i don't think many people will lol.

[–] p1mrx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

if we all started counting in base12 too

You could start by calling it twelve instead of 12.

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But it doesn't use base 12. Take distance. Values smaller than 1/64" are measured using "thou", "tenths", and "millionths", which are decimal multiples of 1/1000', 1/10000", and 1/1000000" respectively.

Values between 1/64" and 1" are measured using dyadic rationals, i.e. base-2 fractions.

Above 1" it's mostly base 12,except for the yard.

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[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Those aliens have 3 fingers. A decimal system to them is like a system based on 14, 196, 2744, 38416, ... would be like to us - probably worse than US Customary

[–] geissi@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago

14, 196, 2744, 38416, … would be like to us - probably worse than US Customary

I mean if they had a base 14 numerical system then a base 14 measurement system would make perfect sense.
Contrary to that, the US does use a decimal system for numbers while the various units in the US customary system do not have any common base.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

humans have used base 8 count the gaps between your fingers, base 12 count the joints on 4 fingers with your thumb, and base 26 by using lots of body parts.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Number of fingers doesn't have to dictate their number system. If they're using a decimal based number system, then a decimal based measurement system is still the logical choice.

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[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

They have 3 fingers on each hand and 2 toes on each foot. 10 total.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Silly Americans, you could be measuring your winnies in GIGAMETERS and yet decide to keep using the kings thumb as a reference for it*

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Me with a 1.0x10^-11 GIGAMETER weenie: 😎

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Base 12 is way more logical than base 10, I bet aliens would think we're stupid for counting in base 10 just because we have 10 fingers, my opinion on this is infallible fight me

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Base 12 is as arbitrary as base 10 and we don't know what aliens would think nor should we care. Base 16 makes more sense because it is 2x2x2x2 instead of 2x2x3

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[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] dfc09@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (8 children)

12 is more divisible than 10. 10 can only be cut into 5's and 2's, 12 has 2, 3, 4, and 6.

[–] azurekevin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Similar reason why 360 deg is a full circle and time is kept in 12s and 60s.

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[–] mv777711@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The Egyptians and Babylonians counted in base 12. They did so by counting each section of the fingers on one hand with their thumb (4 fingers, 3 sections each = 12).

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[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why use decimals when reducing fractions is SO EASY

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[–] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When I find a wood working video on YouTube from the states it blows my mind how anyone can not just adopt metric “This is 5” 4/57 and we need to cut it to 5” 5/45 and a half” bzzzzzzz.

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[–] MetricIsRight@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

I feel like this is my wheel house.

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