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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago

oh man, i wonder how many just dont know

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry ladies, they are a little busy growing sunflowers right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How nice of them to take up gardening

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think they’re coming home even if (and most likely) dead

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Isn’t it like 350k deployed and 315k dead? Those are insane numbers.

Edit: 315k killed and wounded… not sure of the ratio

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Afaik, it's 315k casualties, not deaths, which basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc. Also keep in mind that this is an Ukrainian estimate which might be inflated.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, you’re right it is killed and wounded. But, these are US intelligence numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The ratio is almost always 3:1 in all cases. And I think the US has corroborated Ukrainian numbers very closely in the past, so it's probably a fair guess that 100k Russians have died.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought in Ukraine it was closer to 2:1 due to poor Russian medical training and supplies.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be real, if you're in power in Russia do you want a lot of wounded returning home from this war? Every soldier returning from the front is a potential threat to your narrative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Expensive too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

3:1 of 315k is 80k deaths

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

351k according to today's numbers, crossed 350 two days ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that always how casualty is defined??? I had no idea

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

TIL. Thanks for the power up!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember being surprised when I learned that casualty does not necessarily mean fatality. I think it’s a common misunderstanding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

basically means "unable to serve". This includes dead, injured, captured, deserted etc.

Ah, I didn't know that. I now envision it sometimes going like:
"Poor Steve, a casualty of war."
"What do you mean, he snuck back home and is watching TV in his mom's basement!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

The accuracy of these numbers is always going to be debatable and the true numbers likely never known but this is what Ukraine is saying what Russian losses are like

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Putin confirmed 300,000 in a speech about a week ago.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if he sends those women to the frontline as well.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good luck with that. They’re not coming back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, they will... as sunflowers in the fields of Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As far as I know it's not that they have just now started demanding this, it's that now their demands have been blatantly and openly ignored and handwaved away. The frustration is really high already.

I heard some people believe this to be a tipping point but I am afraid to believe that this will affect anything

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

we'll know if the tipping point is reached because it'll be violent. This isn't violent

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[–] jaschen 14 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Putin doesn't have the power to bring back the dead, but wishful thinking tho Russian women.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Even if they came back, they’ll never be the same

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No husband! Only Khlav Khlash!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good luck with that. Not something Putin wants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very sad. Poor oppressed Russian woman cries

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