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Shirts That Go Hard

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I can't speak for all of Caucasia but I'm not offended.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago

I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, "if you're offended, lighten the fuck up, honky."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

I think the way it works is someone who is not a member of that group tells you it's offensive

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He got it wrong though. The shirt should says "CRACKERS".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Also not offended by this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Me either, but it's actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.

Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (81 children)

Except redskins is offensive. It's not the name of a group of people, it's an epithet describing them.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Should go harder IMHO. This ad from the National Congress of American Indians does a good job.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah the only issue here is "Caucasians" is roughly similar in emotional weight to "native Americans."

Shirt should say like, "crackers" or something

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Cracker doesn't even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn't carry much weight for the people it should.

Source: I'm literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I'm talking about just don't care.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don't know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it's a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I very much like Mayo Monkies myself lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Eh.. folks from County Mayo might feel unfairly singled out.

I would have thought that if redskins is the settler pejorative for native americans then Paleface (or the like) is the thematic riposte.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The issue is a lot of people would completely fail to get the message and want to buy all three hats.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named "Steve." It's just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is "Hi, I'm Steve, nice to meet you."

When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant "Hi, I'm Steve." The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nah it gotta be dave. Everyone knows Dave

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Steve is the funnier name though.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite team is still the Cincinnati Cracker-Asses

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I am okay with the rebranded Honky-tonks too.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

Whiteskins seems like a more appropriate name

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Shouldn’t the shirt say “Red Necks” or anything more offensive?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read that a more apt metaphore would be a shirt that says Paleface, with a skinny white dude on it. Cause this shirt actually goes hard.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"red necks" is usually referring to a specific lot of folk, whereas the original context (of what this is poking at) "referred" of an entire group of people, so saying "caucasians" is more 1:1.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it racist for me a white guy to wear this?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd be worried people wouldn't get the joke and think I was some sort of Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that was my thought too.

There are dumb right wingers who would wear it "see theres nothing offensive about this" as opposed to "See how fucking weird this is"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Only sport that team would play is disk golf

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I would wear that shirt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Caucasians doesn't roll off the tongue at all. Need something shorter.

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[–] Crismus 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pinkskins fits more of us, but that gets into Enterprise territory.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I'm okay with that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

That guy (and likely his entire extended family) gets it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why is caucasian used to refer to the white race, isnt that for georgians or something?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Misrepresenting the target group is just an added bonus. It's like referring to all indigenous people as "indians" - even if they were from India (which they're not), it's just taking a blanket term and making them all seem like they're the same. At least that's why it's even funnier in this context.

But generally speaking, when people unironically use the term to refer to all whites, well, that just shows that they don't really understand the meaning of the term they are using.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah brother got one in a large long?

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