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What if Meta's hidden objective behind the Threads-to-Mastodon initiative is a play on app.net? And, what if threads.net is a measured step towards what could be the greatest pivot in all of tech?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sigh..

No. We'll just make a new mastodon/ lemmy-verse without them. Its easy enough. At a certain point the world needs to understand that its these companies, not the format, we're avoiding.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

we’re avoiding

"We" are a minority share of the market and no one really cares about "us". "We" are irrelevant and we will keep being irrelevant unless we start actual and effective evangelizing for an open web.

This is not just about "avoiding", it's about fighting for culture change.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh I'm pretty happy if they just stay over there haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who is "they"? Your family? School/Work colleagues? People you share interests and that you know in meatspace?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm fine with that personally. I'd much rather have a small social network containing people who are like me (at least in some respects) than a huge one filled with people I hate and garbage AI content.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy (heck, even reddit) is great example of why your and their goals arent mutually exclusive. If lemmy blows up, some places will stay small, some places will look like it does on bigger social media sites. I prefer slow and steady growth but an explosion of growth isnt the worst thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you "hate" your family? Your neighbors? Co-workers? Normies?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily, but Facebook certainly makes it easy to 😉 more importantly I'm not at all interested in being connected via social media with any of those people, aside I suppose from "normies" because that could really be anyone, but I'm not that bothered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but I don't care about seeing them on social media. I don't desire that at all, if I am gonna keep in touch with someone it will be in person or through direct messages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You don't need to see them just because the same network as you. But they need to be here if we want corporate social media to die.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like I see the same kind of post everyday.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I skimmed the article and it was a bit different from the usual "here's the definition of EEE and what I copied from the history section of the wiki page"

I agree we need less of the above though

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's obvious. The question is how to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has a lot of nonsense. It gives too much credit while vague regarding LLaMA2. It failed to mention a lot of Open Source work Meta has done lately. It was only from a US point of view and not how the EU has been a thorn in Big Tech’s side. Mastodon has 1.6 MAU and many users have multiple accounts. Mastodon is too small for Meta to care about. Those startups Meta squashed were doing innovative things Meta never seen applied before. When it purchased Instagram and WhatsApp there were many millions of active users. Meta as was many Big Tech companies a part of the W3C when AP was being planned and backed out. The Fediverse is about as old as Facebook so Meta has seen this before, Mastodon hasn’t done anything new on this front. Outside of that there are some interesting considerations

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think the reason threads is attaching itself to the fediverse is precisely because meta don't see it as a threat.

It's an easy way to appear open to the regulators without actually helping any competitors.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Not only all the things you mention, but I kept thinking "Well, if they do manage to make a pivot where they are nothing but infrastructure and still manage to please Wall Street, then good for everyone:

  • Users will have a way to move out if they want to do so.
  • Companies that want to keep a social media presence will be able to do it from their own domains, while not having to worry about the operational aspects.
  • Decentralization is still preserved.
  • Transparency is still preserved.
  • By becoming infrastructure, it basically means they will become a commodity which will have to compete on price. Sure, one could make the case that AWS (and Azure/GCP) make real money by providing other services on top of their "basic" hosting offers, but no one looks AWS and think "AWS is locking people and charging crazy prices on S3 but they can't get a compelling alternative".

If anything, all these "what if scenarios" are almost making me wish that Zuck does pull it off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't think you need the "what if" parts

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The “as a service” business model is interesting. It may be a good funding path for mastodon, lemmy devs etc…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many hate the "as a service" model, you might need to elaborate on how it will be implemented.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of options here TBH and I haven’t put much thought into it. Providing a service by running and managing software updates, migrations etc…, is one. MongoDB Atlas and Confluent Cloud are good examples of what I had in mind.

Why do people hate the “as a service” model?

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