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Did decide to go the used drive route just saving up and waiting for the right deal from a good seller. I did notice on eBay specifically that some sellers have tested drives for a great price per tb with a shit seller's warranty (30 days to 1 year) but offer insurance for a significantly longer length of time for a few more bucks. I'm wondering if that's a good alternative to having a long seller's warranty? Just assume I will back everything up properly so drive failure won't be a massive concern I just want the option of returning it or getting a replacement if need be.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what you want are used datacenter drives that still have some manufacturer warranty left. they sell them all over on amazon too. then you dont have to deal with some middleman when you need a replacement

[–] ponchow8NC 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey long shot but I did end up buying one with a year of manufacturer warranty still available and was wondering if you went through the process of getting a replacement from WD (the manufacturer of my drive) that was brought from eBay? I made a new post but couldn't get answers and I just got a couple of questions.

its been a minute, but when i did this i took the serial number to WD. their site proved the warranty and had a swap policy, i just sent it back directly to WD.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You might check out serverpartdeals.com. I'd trust a larger company over some random ebay seller. They have warranties oh their drives too. I've only bought one from them thus far but haven't had any issues with the drive.

[–] ponchow8NC 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really appreciate it they actually also have an eBay store which I've been stalking religiously I'm just waiting for a lower capacity drive, 8-10tb is my realistic sweet spot. In the meantime I'm just browsing and looking at other well known sellers.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just bought a few 18tb from serverpartsdeals (via eBay) and they're working well for now. YMMV of course.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've bought plenty of used drives, like 25-30 from eBay alone, only had around 5 SSDs fail after pretty heavy abuse. I've also bought refurbished drives, they are really good value from buying brand new ones.

[–] ponchow8NC 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were they all from the same seller?

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

SSDs were from Garland computers (great company and visited locally)

All the refurb drives are water panther from Amazon, but they have a website you can buy from directly. They are RMA drives from Western Digital and Seagate with 0 hours.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of good suggestions here, but I just wanted to add that I absolutely wouldn't rely on a random eBay seller's warranty in any way. I made that mistake early on in my journey. I came back to find my seller had deleted their account (probably to start another and skip out on warranties).

[–] BlackSkinnedJew 5 points 1 year ago

I believe there is nothing what last forever so take some risks and you can win the big pot.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you "RAID and backup enough" any chepo used hard drive is a good and valid. :)

Generally speaking datacenter drives with manufacturer warranty will be a good option because they're easy to get replaced by the manufacturer without much fuzz. For any second hard drive I look at bad blocks > count of starts > time they've been running and if it isn't an absurd number they should be fine.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and no.

If you put the effort in to get a wide range of sources/batches AND monitor your disks regularly: Agreed

But if you get a few from the same manufacturing batch/source? Then there are shockingly decent odds that they will fail at roughly the same time. Which is a huge problem if you aren't monitoring your disks and able to "recover" from however many failures before they take down the array.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely agree with you, no discussion there. Active monitoring is required. Backup in 3-2-1 would solve the same source batch issue. Some backups should be kept spun down / cold storage so the likelihood of failure at the same time is close to none. Still I would mix the production and backups HDDs to avoid that.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah.

I guess my general approach in my personal life is that I would rather spend a bit more on some refurbs of server grade hdds from a reputable outlet. Because once I start assuming all of my drives will fail at any moment I need much more hierarchical storage and a lot more replacement drives and so forth. And my actual off site backups are a much smaller subset of my data that is in an encrypted volume in a cloud storage provider's bucket.

And in my professional life: You are paying for the warranties and support contracts. If you can't afford to run your own storage then you should just call Amazon and ask for a good deal.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And in my professional life: You are paying for the warranties and support contracts. If you can’t afford to run your own storage then you should just call Amazon and ask for a good deal.

Oh yeah. Or don't have storage at all, because if you can't afford it you most likely don't need it :P