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    [–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The moment we've all been waiting for.

    [–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Nobody using Windows is sad about this like the meme suggests however. Literally no one is "team windows" lol

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Nobody is actively team windows, but they immediately become team windows as soon as you suggest they try Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Maybe because people just don't care for unsolicited "advice" from Linux nerds?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    No, there has to be a different reason women won't talk to me

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Why would Windows users be crying. Most users have ambivalence/hate relationship with it.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is just as contrived and boring as the console wars

    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

    In my opinion not at all. Linux started as a project from a nerd and nerds around the world joined in. I know now a day's a lot of companies contribute but what they contribute is open for the nerds to use. Unlike the console wars where it's company vs company with fanboys picking sides.

    Now it's now neck beards vs industry and that's way more interesting. I'm obviously picking the nerd/neck beard side cause fuck the big corp

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Even worse, cause one side isn't giving a fuck about it.

    Like, which Windows user cares that Linux is getting Windows-emulated games? Literally no one. Let alone enough to cry about it.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

    Do you go to restaurants and complain there is food there? This is a place for linux memes.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

    Yeah! You're cool cuz you don't care about this stuff. And also people who do care about this stuff are less cool than you. Yeah!

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    This is a Wendy's, sir.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    which Windows user cares

    I think its more about windows itself caring but not windows users. Microsoft is probably sad that thoose games are working on linux with great performance

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    I prefer Linux as a OS, so I'm really happy that I can play games that aren't supported by devs. And it has benefits - since Linux is a better OS by a mile some games work better on it. For example Valheim on Windows is unplayable for me since it shuts down my computer after 5 - 20 mins, while on Linux it runs without problems and has smaller FPS drops in my gigantic castle. Maybe it's a bad example since it has support for Linux, but Ravenswatch doesn't and also has better performance on Linux through Proton.

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought proton is an email/vpn company, do they have a gaming client like steam?

    [–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This proton isn't affiliated with the one you're talking about. Proton is a tool that valve developed based on wine that lets windows games run on Linux, especially the steamdeck

    https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I wish you answer me one more question. I bought games on steam that later found they're "Windows only". I can't play these games on the steam I installed on my linux pc. I can only play them on the steam of my windows pc.

    Can I play them on linux using Proton? If yes, then this might allow me remove windows from my life completely

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

    Click Properties, then Compatibility. Select a Proton version from the menu. It should allow your games to run.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Steam β†’ Settings β†’ Compatibility β†’ Steam Play β†’ Enable Steam Play for supported titles & Enable Steam Play for all other titles

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yes you can, on Linux steam, go to the game's properties, then click on the compatibility tab, and finally check the"force the use of..." Line. You should then be able to install the windows game on Linux and play it using the proton tool automatically

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

    If you can't find that tab, it could also be because you need to go to steam settings and enable steam play for all titles (which will let you use Proton with any game)

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Search for the game you're looking to run on this site: https://www.protondb.com/

    If it runs, you'll find reports on what it took to make it happen, if anything, and how well it runs

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Look the games up in protondb for user experiences. Also Proton is not a Garantie. I have a great experience with proton and steam deck is running with proton, so valve makes money with proton and improve it daily. But it is NOT A SURE THING.

    Again great tool, but it has a limit. E.g. valorant doesn't run.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    you seem to have French'd the guarantee

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    lookup "protondb"

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yep, even if the game is Windows only and you're a Linux guy, you go into the Steam properties/settings for that game, click on the Compatibility tab, and then check the "Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool". Chances are the game will work fine, but if it doesn't you can try some other version of Proton. Alternatively, there is also Wine but I didn't touch it yet and heard it's a pain in the a**

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    It's the name of the wine-like thing that steam uses to run pc games on linux

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    It's too bad the native Linux versions of old id Tech 0/1/2/3/4 games aren't being posted on Steam.

    And worse, for the old id Tech 0/1 games it's not even the Windows version, nor a native emulator, it's running the DOS version in the Windows version of DOSBox in Proton.

    Although now I notice this is actually a remake, not the id Tech 1 original.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You do know gzdoom exists, right? You can play old id games and games based on the doom engine natively by purchasing them and running the .wad file through gzdoom.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    This is true, but for idtech 3 and 4 games there were official Linux binaries, but they arent distributed by platforms like steam, even though they already ship Linux versions of other games. Quake 4 or Doom 3 was I think the last of the official Linux binaries from Id.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Um, I tried Mint for gaming and while the community is strong on helping me figure out what was wrong with my video drivers and my Logitech steering wheel, i realized I could just not run Linux and spend the time actually playing my working game on Windows.

    I'm not a Windows fanboy. The majority of people just want a turn key experience. Linux(for now) is not yet a trouble free experience.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    You realise that having to try a whole bunch of other distros is so much worse compared to the "turn key experience" they're after, right? And it's a valid complaint. I generally agree with the sentiment, even though I've more or less sworn off Windows whenever I can possibly avoid it.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    Bro didn't even spend two weeks of his life fucking around with different distros and trying various workarounds and hacks trying to get them to work with his games before he just went back to playing games on a system he knows works. Aight

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    Blame the user and not the product. What are you, Tim Apple?

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    what was your issue exactly ?

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Wine is an awesome feat of engineering to be sure, but even the gold level compatibility Windows games dont always work out of the box on any linux distro without a bunch of tweaks, installation of drivers, windows DLLs etc etc. Its time consuming and people dont have time, thats a huge issue.

    Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways. Even just updating wine itself can occasionally break things, and then you are back in the support forum looking for answers.. for hours.. instead of just playing the game. For slightly more advanced users I think Lutris is the way to go, you can configure the games yourself and launch them with various versions of wine or proton, and that seems to work pretty well in most cases.

    The right answer is for game manufactures to make the games for Linux, so the right answer is to get Linux desktop market share up over 10%, thats the only way to force the issue.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways.

    I get daily updates on my Fedora/KDE install, and I've never seen that happen, and I'm a avid gamer, playing games each and every day.

    Also, you don't install Wine yourself directly into the OS, so you don't have to worry about it breaking with a new OS update.

    You install a manager for Wine, like Bottles. Between Bottles and Steam, games install and run to the point you can't even tell you're running them on Linux.

    Bottles will even let you link your Bottles installed game into Steam, so you see it in your games list just like any other Steam game.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    My favourite game Dead or Alive Xtreme Venus Vacation works again. Ciao!

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Honestly Proton is great but Windows for gaming is still the best of the three main oses

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    @thecookingsenpai @Titou Yet has to be said, I've been using linux for gaming for almost 2 years now, the amount of games you can play now compared to PlayOnLinux era is impressive.
    I only run into issues when the game uses windows only anti-cheats, but I don't have many of those games ( I said goodbye to League now that they are adding Vanguard ), therefor I can play fully on Linux.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    It would be more relevant if the cap had the apple logo.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    still waiting for Alley Cat.

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