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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Most questions on SO these days are very specific so I doubt ChatGPT would be able to come up with good answers for those. All the easy questions have been answered long ago.

[–] TheActualDevil@sffa.community 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Especially since ChatGPT can't think of a new answer, right? It's working off data that's already somewhere online. It's just using predictive text based to determine the next word based on what users have typed. So most of these answers people get from "AI" are out there for these people to get from real people.

[–] Japan_50@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know why you're getting down voted. That is how it works to my understanding (as a layperson). It was fed training data and is very good at predictive text. I don't think it can take concepts it's learned and apply them in novel ways.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious but I don't think fully answers the question. This is a good example of something novel that GPT can do, ie manipulating language according to new rules to create rhythm and rhymes.

However, to give a more over the top example: if you removed all mention of planes from its corpus, leaving only information on air resistance and materials science, and then asked it for the best way to cross the Atlantic, it would never invent a plane for you.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if it could, there are a lot of APIs or documentation that it hasn't been trained on enough or at all to be able to answer. The models can, at least currently, only contain so much information, so the more specific or detailed the response you need, the worse it'll do.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Deciding what to write next based on what it just wrote is reasoning. So saying "it's just predicting the next word" is very dismissive if you haven't used it.

My personal experience was I spent hours googling a for a script. I gave up and typed my problem into chatgpt. It gave working code in seconds.

It wasn't just cutting and pasting what was already on Google.

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

I swear, uninformed people who underestimate AI will be the death of us

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Good thing every single programming line is already documented somewhere.

It doesn't need to think of new answers.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I disagree. I use chatgpt all the time where I'll tell it "here's my block of code" then "here's the error message I'm getting, how should I resolve this?" I could easily see it working for stack exchange questions. Chatgpt is useful because it's able to answer specific questions.

Of course there is some percentage of the time where it's completely wrong, but I'd put that under 20% for the questions I ask it. And you can tell it's wrong because the solution doesn't work, but if I'm not familiar with the subject matter I could waste a lot of time before I figure out why it's wrong.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is probably how chatgpt learned to code in the first place.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You haven't learned to add "probably" when you're sure of something on lemmy?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Probably not.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you look at new questions asked, there are a lot of easy to answer, low quality questions.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 32 points 1 year ago

At least anon didn't downvote an question because he found that question "similar" to another "solved" question in stackoverflow.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Didn't GPT pull in StackOverflow as a source? Questions are probably repeats of existing or close enough.

[–] amio@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As bad an idea as that would be, if real, it's still hard to underperform relative to SO.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Closed ss duplicate "link to completely unrelated questionr"

[–] bc1@lemmy.l0l.city 6 points 1 year ago

Recursion INFINITE

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I had a dollar for every time ChatGPT gave me code that worked but didn't do anything I asked it to, I would have $5. Not because its accurate, but because I only had the patience to correct its work 5 times.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ChatGPT is really good at telling me I'm a dumbass and to do it some other way when I ask why my code isn't working. I'll give it credit for that.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After it gave me to implement X in your app, you need to take into account A, B, and C 5 times in a row when I asked it on what steps needed to be taken, I cancelled my sub immediately.

ChatGPT is getting fucking lazy.

every AI is getting bad. I'm using some off-brand (some might say indie) ones, and they're slower dumber and have more payed options by the day.

ChatGPT if not for cheating in school I wouldn't use it at all probly. Phind.com was my go-to favorite, now can't search the web for shit gpt option is payed and it's just dumb. You.com my friend used this, straight ignored my request yesterday.

do other's have the same experience? If yes, follow-up question are they dumbing down AI, and keeping the power to themselves? 2nd follow-up how can I selfhost a good AI and what do I need for it to work?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boilerplate that I know by heart but can't be giving bothered to type? Sure.

Context specific, unique manipulations? Nah, in going in raw

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I can't speak for GPT, but I usually let copilot take a first pass at things, then when I start to tweak them to fix Copilot's mistakes, the AI peer-codes it out with me pretty quick.

I've actually managed to get copilot to offer a valid solution to a problem that was cleaner than my own (though it took a few tries).

Dev AI's work and save time as long as you know what you're doing and aren't trying to lean on the AI to do all the coding.