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There has to be a better system than this.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you're lucky enough to find something you're passionate about you may not begrudge the work week. I never have, so i work to live, got into a reasonable paying sector, didn't waste money on oversized property or flash motors, as they're not my bag, but used the cash to go adventuring at weekends, snow boarding in winter, the job takes up more time than I'd like but i'm earning freedom tokens. That mentality helped me at least.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The key is to do your living now while you still can. Don't waste your youth on a grind that will get you nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't just work it's not like nothing else happens. I get it's tough and frustrating but life is good even if work sucks sometimes

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Have you tried alcohol? That seems to be the popular approach.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

First off, I'd try to find as much balance and joy as possible now. Don't wait for retirement. None of us know if we'll even be around at that point.

I also make sure to vote for people who want more work/life balance and more universal public services. Vacation time, family and parental leave, universal healthcare, affordable education, etc. Those are all things that free you mind to think about life and not just the basic necessities and surviving.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've been thinking about this since middle school (when I was thinking about what was waiting for me after school, which I wasn't much a fan of either) and I just distract myself by doing things I enjoy. If it occupies my mind too much, I take a hit of copium and tell myself that maybe I'll get lucky and strike it rich somehow to let me retire early.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You simply work

Because like it or not, you need resources to live. The entire bullshit fairytale (or furry tail) of working in your own vegetable garden to live off the lands IS STILL WORKING YOU LAZY ASSHOLE. And it will be working a lot harder for a lot less resources with a lot more risk when your crops fail

Somehow you snowflake types (sorry, but yeahyou "I hate to work, hoe can I sit on my ass for the next 40 years and have someone take care of me?) somehow really roped yourself into the idea that you can live off air or something. No matter how you do It, no matter what system you implement, you still gotta work!

I worked hard for what I got and I don't have much, and that is fine, I have enough z I don't needs a super yacht (nor should anyone, but that is a different story). Yes, I too sometimes have bad day and don't want to get out of bed but then I just make myself, you know, have some discipline?

You will NOT be able to get by doing nothing unless you leech off and abuse someone else, or an entire group. Until we have fully human like AI robots thatcan do all of our tasks, humans are required to do work, PERIOD.

If nobody will work anymore and we all go to our fantasy vegetable garden then within months, medicine will run out, say goodbye to grandma and everyone that has diabetes or cancer or anything else, and that goodbye will be painful and excruciating. Then after a few months millions more will die from food shortages. Want to complain about it on the internet? Well fuck you because fuck you, because nobody is working anymore and the internet doesn't work on magic, it runs on hard human labor, meaning that WE HAVE TO WORK.

Putting it on "but evil corporations!!" is a bullshit excuse as well. Like it or not, you need them. Without those evil corporations, no more medication, no more food, no more electricity, no more life for the vast majority of all of us. That evil corporations should change for the better is something that nobody will deny but that is a different story BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO WORK YOU ENTITLED ASSHOLE.

So yes, you are lazy and yes, you need to get off your ass and stop leeching off your mommie. Sorry to be harsh about it but this post just really shows you are entitled and lazy and your post is just really insulting to those that try to live a responsible life and help others. Stop thinking about yourself, you're not the only one here.

/rant

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Tldr.

There is something between doing absolutely nothing, and working your ass off to make someone else rich. Most of us want that middle ground.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think the person who posted this was complaining about having to do work at all. They were complaining about how much work needs to be done and for how long you have to do it and for the fact that you can't enjoy the reward at the end of it cause you're too old to do stuff. Which are all valid complaints and at the end of the day comes down to greedy corporations trying to milk workers for every last penny of value they can get from them for as long as possible. Times have changed a lot since many of our norms about 40 hour work weeks and retirement ages were established, and since then workers are much more efficient. So I think it's good to discuss changing these things to take some of those benefits from increased efficiency and give that value to the workers rather than just letting the corporations take it for their profits and investors.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I found a job with a career track that I can retire from in 25 years max and I already have 5 years of service. The system you envision doesn't really exist yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Sir, “Retired” is the opposite of “Start”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I've got "30 and out" at my union factory, so I'll retire at 56 which isn't so bad. Course, I'll lose my health insurance but it's free til then 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the ideal way would be to build up passive income and/or outwaging your living costs by double or triple, but god knows how hard that is.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't follow someone else's path. I took a year off to travel in my 20s, a year off to sail in my 30s, and now that I'm 40 I'm planning another year long adventure in the next 5 years. I wasn't born into wealth, I spent less than I earned, invested the rest, and avoided debt. Don't get a big house in the suburbs with a mortgage, new lease car every 4 years, student loans, etc unless that's what your actually want. Set yourself up for success with smart money management so you can do what you want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love my job. I have crippling depression, so I won't live to retirement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I hope you get through that.

Depression sucks, but it doesn't last forever and there's people who care about you, whether you think so or not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I keep finding myself trying to imagine how to make enough money so my mom doesn't have to do this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Times are tough, but here's what's worked for me so far:

  1. Spend less than you make
  2. Keep a budget
  3. Keep debts to a minimum
  4. If you live with your parents, try to save as much as you can
  5. Have an end goal

Depending on your circumstances, you might only have to work for 20 years, and if you do what you love, it won't feel like work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes there are lots of useless jobs out there, but at least you're putting food on the table.

But also, you have to look at it from another angle.

Picture work as your way of trying to help advance humanity. Jobs, other than the useless ones I mentioned, all should have a reason behind their existence.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm half done. I've kept up my health and I'm trying to improve it even more. When I hit 65 I won't be too old to do much.

But the real question should be what are you waiting until retirement to do and why not do it sooner?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because at the age of 36 I'm financially treading water and a week off here and there is enough time to de-stress from work, not enough time to do what I'd really like to.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Die with Zero by Bill Perkins has some interesting takes on this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hate to say it, but I actually enjoy my job. Would I rather be playing video games and vacationing with friends in the mountains? Of course. But I'd also like to eat potato chips and pizza every day, which would get boring. I work in oil and gas, in environmental, and the money is decent and everyone is just trying really hard to do the right thing and meet government regulatory requirements at every step--regardless of mainstream anti-O&G sentiments. I deal with technical challenges, engineering complexity, and social diversity every day and my brain is better off for it than if I were just cozy on my couch instead. I do consider becoming self employed though--not because I hate my job, but because I would appreciate more control over my own life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The answer is: do a job you like and do the things you like. I’m due to retire in ten years and won’t be doing so. I won’t work as much but I will work

It’s easier in some countries than others. But the key is not wasting time on things that you feel pressured to do because of societal norms or because you’re too lazy to do anything different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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