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Here is the story: I decided to buy a good and expensive controller for my PC for the first time, after 3 decades of using stock dualshocks and cheap knock-off brands. Googled "best controller for PC", found a lot about elite series 2 controllers. Got excited about it (primarily the back-grip buttons and adjustable stick tightness), bought it.

After a month of playing Binding of Isaac I have decided to play some Doom Eternal to learn the hot new aiming technique - flick stick. Only to realize that this elite controller, that costs 130€ for the base kit, in current year, comes WITHOUT the gyro.

I honestly wish at least one of 5 reviews I watched and read mentioned this detail.

Is there any accessory I can acquire to get gyro, or would I have better luck returning the controller and buying something else?

Edit: I actually like everything else about the device, and not having the gyro is not exactly the deal breaker, but c'mon people

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's bizarre to me too. Everyone keeps praising the Xbox controllers for being the best and they don't even have gyro??

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is that bizarre? It‘s not exactly a widespread feature so most people don‘t care about it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's not widespread BECAUSE Microsoft refuses to include it in all their controllers. It's been a standard in Sony, Nintendo, and even some 3rd party controllers like 8bitdo.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gyro has been present in Sony controllers since Dualshock 3. All of the Nintendo controllers I ever used had it. Steam deck has it. I honestly assumed it is a standard feature.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘ve have a PS3 and PS4 and can‘t think of a single game that uses this feature. When I say widespread I don’t mean the hardware, but how it is implemented in software.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GTA IV had it for PS3, I remember.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It did? How was this utilized?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It was optional to use, you could control leaning on bikes I remember but I never used the feature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't xbox the only one that doesn't?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep games for Xbox don't have it because Xbox controllers don't have it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People tend not to like gyro aim.

People are wrong, but I am not surprised.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whether they like it or not, it should still be included on a "premium" product, when the Wii U controllers had it!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a patent Microsoft just hasn't been willing to license use of.

I remember when the Sixaxis came out. It was missing vibration. It was because Immersion sued Sony (and ultimately won) over patent infringement of rumble motors. Sony ended up having to pay somewhere around $100 million.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately so much stuff on the web is astroturfed it’s hard to form a good opinion nowadays.

Even the products reviews or maybe especially these it’s hard to tell what is true nowadays and what is fiction or misinfo

Id love to brush it off and say eh just paranoid but there’s real money and motive.

Reddit was relatively good for some time but then I heard it’s already full of marketing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I bought that same controller and it's absolute garbage. It started developing multiple problems before I realized it was too late to use the warranty. The left bumper was inconsistent, the d-pad was wobbly (more give on one side than the other), and the right stick started drifting badly. Not to mention the basic, crappy software and connectivity issues. I tore it apart and tried every fix I could find but nothing helped. I wasted a lot of money for something that felt and looked really great, but was fucking awful otherwise.

Then I did a lot of research and found the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro. It has hall effect triggers and sticks, mechanical buttons, both C and Z buttons, triggers that could actually click, a gyro, a high poll rate, Nintendo Switch compatibility, and a lot more. It doesn't feel as premium as the XBES2 controller did in my hands, but it seems just as durable and it's less than half the cost. Don't let the look fool you. I HIGHLY recommend it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

8bitdo controllers are good. They care about making good input devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I highly recommend the Gulikit KK3 MAX, I think it has all the features of the Elite Series 2 and also Gyro and a lot more. And it's only $80.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey this one looks exactly like what I expected to get, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello friend. I use the brooks adapter on my xbone elite gen 1 for ps4. It adds gyro and touch pad click support.

https://a.co/d/gL2oxm0

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it says it does not support the Elite series 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That one does appear to be compatible with the Elite 2, but I don't think either model supports motion control on PC, just PS4/5 and Nintendo Switch.