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[–] [email protected] 183 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"But that will make it cost prohibitive to own an SUV!!!"

Yes... Yes it will.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

You call it a bug.

I call it a feature.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This whole vehicular size arms race needs to go away please.

It's so retarded that people think they need to get bigger cars to "protect" themselves in accidents. Just feedback looping stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The next "logical" step after SUVs is driving APCs in the name of safety.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (12 children)

While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

What would really change the game is changing existing parking spaces to fixed size parking spaces and if your over that you get towed.

That would mean they have to park their car somewhere more remote which would incentisize not buying huge cars to begin with

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I can't speak for Parisians, but here in the us my experience is that it's the people who drove the big cars who bitch the most about the price of gas.

So the added cost would definitely be a disincentive.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a ridiculous thing in the US that Europeans probably don't know about called "rolling coal," where people in big pickup trucks that they never use for hauling anything because it would scrape the bed modify their truck to belch out a huge cloud of black smoke on demand.

I have a Prius. They love doing it to me, because of course a hybrid that still uses gas must mean that I'm one-a them commie tree-hugging hippies. They probably pay as much in gas to do it once as it would take to get my car to go 5-10 miles. And they're the ones putting Biden 'I did that' stickers next to gas pumps when gas prices go up.

Hey rednecks, you know what you have to do to not worry much about gas prices? Buy a fuel-efficient car.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

Not just that, it removes the.. let's call it 'shame factor'. Some people that would feel bad about driving big, polluting cars in the city now will feel perfectly justified: they are paying extra for the privilege. This will not reduce the number of cars and likely will increase it. It's simply a bad policy. As you said, number of parking spots for big cars should be reduced each year putting greater and greater pressure on the owners to get rid of them.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Suck it, SUV owners in Paris.

But really, suck it every SUV owner. They're terrible in every single way and no one can change that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an SUV owner, I agree. It tries to do too many things, so it's not good at any of them. When we had kids, I wanted a minivan. They're ugly, they don't get good gas mileage, their handling is like a pregnant yak- but if you need to haul around kids and their stuff, there's nothing better. My wife at least considered it, but we ended up with a hybrid SUV. I don't completely hate it, but I still would rather have gotten a minivan.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

54.6% voted for the increase.... turnout was 5.7%. So just over 3% of the eligible Parisian population voted for this.

Source

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

The turnout for those things is always extremely low.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL at all the SUV drivers that didn't go to vote

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They were trying to find parking during the vote and missed it.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Easiest vote in the world is to vote to raise someone else's taxes. We should do that for billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not just "someone" else's. SUV owners'. Specifically. For a good reason.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, they banned electric scooter rentals?

Is the main argument that they're unsightly?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (11 children)

They said they're dangerous and cause stress for pedestrians

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Stand up scooters should use the bike lanes.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AFAIK, the main issue wasn't where they're used but where they're stored. While scooters riding on sidewalks is an issue, the bigger issue is them cluttering the sidewalk and becoming an impedance to pedestrians, especially those with disabilities.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Parisians hate their fellow countrymen almost as much as they hate Americans.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has to be the most American take of the week

Car-brain plus assuming the french think about them, that's some top tier copium

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh, when you get a SUV/truck to drive around, you're declaring war on everyone else. It's literally an arms race.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Parisians don't give a shit about Americans one way or the other. I was just there and everyone was nice to me like they are to everyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This thread was weird to read as an owner of a CR-V. I checked and it's just under the weight limit for the new law, and it fits easily in "compact" parking spaces, but I think of it as an SUV because that's what it looks like.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This limit needs to be instituted at a country level.

For example now that the Volkswagen up/Skoda citigo/seat Mii has been put out of production, there isn't a single car made by all the brands of the Volkswagen group that's shorter than 4 meters.

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