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Biden Confuses Presidents of Egypt and Mexico During Presser About His ‘Memory’ (www.thedailybeast.com)
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Biden is self-destructing his own campaign.

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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He didn't 'confuse the Presidents of Egypt and Mexico,' he accidentally referred to Egypt as "Mexico." He was talking about negotiating with Sisi to get the border with Gaza open for humanitarian aid; so he was talking about Egypt's border and he was talking about Egypt's president but he accidentally said "Mexico"; you know, the type of verbal gaff people have been making fun of him about for the last 40+ years.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is another "Hillary's Emails" smear attempt, except it isn't going to work well when Trump is 3 years younger than Biden and saying much more demented things.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Also he tried to kill his own vice president when he didn't do what Trump wanted, committed multiple rapes, and said he is above the law.

I feel like that kind of thing should get mentioned more often whenever someone starts comparing candidates. It's like that Batman comic where they elected The Joker mayor.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, liberals really are gonna hand the presidency right over to Trump again, aren't they

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do you know of a willing candidate who has a significant chance of beating Trump other than Biden?

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There may have been one, but the DNC and dark money would never have allowed it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People keep saying things like this, but it's not like that stopped people like Bernie.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I would argue that the DNC did stop Bernie with the desire to get Hillary on the ballot. But getting back to the question; It's a long shot because of the naturalized citizen angle, but Cenk Uygur (known from the TYT podcasts) perhaps would be an interesting choice. A Turkish-born American though, sadly this will disqualify him with the current electoral rules, but at least he's educated, and not over 80, and I know he's fighting to stay in the run despite these hurdles.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Florida Democratic Party's executive committee voted to cancel their primary at the end of October 2023 and declare Biden the winner

The Tennessee Democratic Party decided to list only Biden as a ballot option for its primary after a November 11 meeting

The North Carolina Democratic Party acknowledged receiving requests for ballot access from Phillips and other candidates, but chose to only include Biden for its primary

The Democratic Party of Wisconsin left Phillips off the ballot; he appealed to the Wisconsin Supreme Court on January 26, 2024. The court unanimously ruled on February 2 that Phillips should be included on the ballot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Phillips_2024_presidential_campaign

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You really think people want Dean Phillips to be president?

Do they like his idea of putting Elonk Musk in his cabinet?

But sure, we definitely need a former CEO and one of the wealthiest men in congress to be president because, as we've learned, wealthy CEOs make the best presidents.

Oh, and if you want someone who is going to be hardline on Israel, it won't be Dean Phillips.. I'm sure his buddies on Fox & Friends are right there with him on that one.

From what I can tell, the "draw" of Phillips is he isn't as old as Biden. Because he sure doesn't sound like a good alternative to me.

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Hear that chirping?

The unmistakable sound of crickets.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say it's less of a question of willingness and more of a question of "will the Democratic establishment tolerate this" thing. There is no discussion about support for Israel for example, and that's just the most glaringly current one. Trump is awful in a lot of other ways, but one of his crimes is acting the radical to Biden's moderate, making Biden and the Dems the only sensible choice.

There is a problem with not being able to vote for people who would represent you, and only being able to vote for someone who is not a literal fascist. The US should be able to do better than one of its leading presidential candidates touting the accomplishment of identifying a whale in a picture book correctly.

In a functioning democracy, there is more than one sane choice.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no shortage of people who could be willing to challenge the Democratic establishment. They just aren't doing it. Unless you count Dean Phillips, and I don't.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

It's hard to challenge the establishment if it is as established as it is. By the nature of the system, a challenger running on public healthcare or repealing anti-labour union regulations can't come from outside the Dem party, since third party candidates don't go anywhere. But you also can't get anywhere with that inside the party, because you would be a fringe.

The problem is that people don't get to vote on policy, policy shifts depend on internal party dynamics. And that's awfully far from a healthy democracy. Can you vote for prohibiting right-to-work laws in your next election? In mine, I get to say climate change is important to me, or free enterprise, or strong border controls, or a better healthcare system. I get to vote on issues that impact me and are important to me, largely without them being bundled together with stuff I don't like. It's not perfect, but it's not like I get to choose between voting for the interests of corporations versus nazis.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is the worst candidate of the bunch by that metric. His favorability is 17 points underwater right now, and he's losing to Trump in most recent polls by around 4 to 6 points. And keep in mind that that's measuring popular vote, not electoral votes. Hillary won the popular vote by 2 points and still lost the election. Biden needs to lead Trump by at least 3 points to even have a chance, it took a +4.5 margin to win last time around. And while we're comparing to Hillary, her favorability was only 15 points underwater in October after the Comey report.

Cornel West would be a way better choice. Even Dean Phillips would be less bad of a choice (y'know that whole "lesser evil" thing and all that). In polls, a generic Democrat leads Trump by 6 points.

But it's all a moot point because Democrats keep shutting down primaries and removing candidates from the ballot. They're attempting another coronation just like they did in 2016 - why would any candidate try to run when the party leadership is shutting them down?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So you can't actually name a willing candidate who has a significant chance of beating Trump other than Biden. Gotcha.

By the way, you are aware that Cornel West isn't running as a Democrat, right?

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[–] sab@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

But person, woman, man, camera, TV!!

[–] sab@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are making this weird fucking arguments like "Biden is so fucking senile he couldn't even immediately drop the years of the Obama presidency" or whatever.

Like what the fuck, I couldn't drop the year of any single thing in my life without thinking about it long and hard, and I'm 30 with no sign of dementia. It's just not how I remember things, and I feel like most people don't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm 46. Last year, I was filling out a form, and I had to ask my wife my age. She had to think about it. We're both the same age.

I don't think we both have dementia.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can dig it. He’s been beating the drum about the domestic border “crisis” with the republicans for a good while. When pressed about the Gaza border, he slipped with the name of the country.

Who gives a shit. Plenty of people do it every minute of the day.

A certain orange care home candidate has been doing it a lot recently. Sioux City, Orban, Pelosi…just to name a few gaffes.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which geriatric coffin dodger do you want, America? The fascist or the neo liberal?

The choice is obvious, but, fuck if it ain't depressing.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what I hate about the:

Still better than trump!

Like, I'd rather have both my legs cut off than my head, most people would.

But people ain't going to stand in like 5 hours after work to pick. Because for a lot of us, having both legs cut off is just a slower death

Because America doesn't have basic social systems to care for us, and we'd get bankrupted by the medical bills

That's the choice:

You want a slow death, or a fast one?

Meanwhile neoliberals don't understand why 1/3 of voters don't vote

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

45% of voters didn't vote when it was a 54 year old vs a 52 year old in 2000 Bush v Gore. It's not the age thing.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The nepotism baby of HW, and one of the least charismatic people to run for president...

Wonder why turnout was low...

Meanwhile look at 92 and 08 when two of our youngest presidents ever, and they blow out everyone around them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

2004 was only as high as it was because it was Bush after 9/11.

But seriously though, trying to pass off Al Gore as a "young" candidate at 52 is hilarious, that man came out of the womb with bifocals complaining about "kids these days".

The sheer audacity of claiming 52 is young just highlights how normalized this has become. A 52 year old running for their first term should already be considered too old.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

High voter turnout in 08? But McCain was 72! Guess it's not the age thing.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it would be worse if you were being sincere or trying to troll...

But neither is a good look, have fun whatever you're doing I guess

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a bit morbid, but thank goodness for COVID happening when it did as that forced the rapid expansion of early and mail in voting which helps mitigate this issue without addressing it directly.

I don't think there's enough political will to do the sensible thing, make Election Day a federal holiday, because that would promote access to democracy to the lower classes and that is a threat to both parties.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All making it a holiday would accomplish is giving bankers the day off while most of everyone else who works for a living would still have work. On a day the buses aren't running because it's a holiday.

But now we have a holiday, so there's no need for early voting.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol, this guy thinks the majority of workers get holidays off...

The solution is making it a week. Give people a full ass week to vote, count em up at the end of the week.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Keep trying! Biden is reading all these posts personally and it's really making him bigsad.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

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