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So they are getting rid of digital downloads. Terrible news

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they are getting rid of digital downloads. Terrible news

They are not getting rid of downloads.

https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/build-your-music-library-mus0f01bdce4/1.4/windows/10

https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/store-atve382f24c/1.4/windows/10

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess i didn't express it correctly. I know that music i already purchase could be transfered to apple music but once itunes is dead for music, you could not buy any new music

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago

This is about the programs, not the services. Apple Music on Mac can also buy music from iTunes despite not being called iTunes anymore.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Again, you are assuming too much.

In the first link I provided:

Buy music from the iTunes Store: If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favourite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorised computers and devices (up to 10 total).

[–] tristan@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

It even says it in the article op linked

The Apple Music app provides access to the iTunes library, alongside song and album purchases. Apple TV also lets Windows users watch movies and TV shows from their iTunes library

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Super TLDR: iTunes is splitting into three apps on Windows: Devices, TV and Music

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now there three apps I will never need. Good to know.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Three apps not to install instead of just one means more work. Thanks Apple!

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m actually super down for this. The only thing I use iTunes for is to make encrypted incremental image backups of my phone and iPad. I’d love to just have a specific program for that, rather than all of the iTunes bloat.

As much as I dislike iTunes. Having a one-click encrypted incremental backups is fucking stellar.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only they could create such an app for Linux. That way I could just ditch my windows virtual machine and not try to create a macOS virtual machine🙏

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah shoot. I didn’t realize they don’t have that. I guess I will hafta keep a windows computer/partition around when I switch over fully.

Or a VM is a good idea, I suppose—thank you!

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The VM way works really well and is easier to setup than a dual boot.

In my experience, windows always wants to be alone on your system 😅

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My close friend told me

NEVER INSTALL BOTH ON YOUR MAIN DRIVE IT WILL FUCK YOUR BOOTLOADER

will windows on an external SSD work okay for games and stuff? I’m mega new to Linux.

[–] tutus@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 1 year ago

It is easily done.

I don't do it because I like the separation - that drive is Linux, that is Windows. That's just me

[–] MilderRichter@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i've used windows and linux on separate drives in the same desktop for ages and it's been working fine.

I'm using windows mostly for games that aren't available natively and don't work via wine/proton

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM Is good is you want to make a MacOS VM on Linux.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the answer. It’s still a bit too complicated for me as it involves way more work than just setting up a windows VM in Gnome boxes.

I might still look at some video tutorials if I can find some 👍

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's not so difficult if you don't need to spoof a serial number. It does take hours of just waiting for it to install, though.

[–] Iamdanno 6 points 1 year ago

Three apps, plus still needing iTunes for podcasts. Thanks, Apple.

Bunch of jabronis

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[–] Takeshidude@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[–] CannonGoBoom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] small44@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's only for music you already bought just like Google did with Youtube music when they killed Google Play Music

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/build-your-music-library-mus0f01bdce4/1.4/windows/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I still buy all my music on my phone, I don't like renting it....

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God I despise UWP. I even uninstall the Microsoft Store on my machines.

Google and MS are working double time to force us into fully-web-hosted everything.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd take a native UWP app over shitty bloated electron based apps any day. Aside from games, they work pretty well in my experience.

[–] tutus@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... right up until you don't have the choice. Microsoft wants a walled garden because money.

I get the sentiment but it really worries me when people embrace this kind of stuff.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't make any sense. Microsoft doing that will kill the only advantage they've ever had in the OS space. And they have tried it once and it failed miserably. It won't happen and it won't work. People would just stay on older versions anyways.

Besides, UWP is just a native application platform. It is not the store. I'd rather they build it with a cross platform native app framework but well, a native app seems like a tough ask nowadays.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't see anything mentioning getting rid of downloads of music, has that been confirmed?

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/build-your-music-library-mus0f01bdce4/1.4/windows/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

[–] Roldyclark@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago

This is already how it is on Mac. Kind of sucks because I don’t use apple streaming and it takes up half the app. Wish I could turn it off and just have a UI focused on my downloads.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found iTunes impossible to uninstall back in the Win7 days and never used it since. Also Spotify exists and is still acceptable enough to use so...

[–] small44@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's still people like me who want to buy digital albums. A lot of artists refuse to put their music on Bandcamp but have music on itunes

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can 100% continue to purchase content and add to your library. Just because the apps have split (as they already have on Apple’s own platforms), does not mean you can not download purchased content or continue to purchase new content for download.

https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/build-your-music-library-mus0f01bdce4/1.4/windows/10

Buy music from the iTunes Store If you don’t subscribe to Apple Music and you want to add your favorite songs or albums, you can buy and download music from the iTunes Store. And if you previously purchased items from the iTunes Store, you can download them to your authorized computers and devices (up to 10 total).

[–] tutus@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm assuming the content you download has Apple DRM so you continue to rely on them? And when they do away with that service your 'purchases' are just files taking up disk space?

A sarcastic, but genuine question (been reading about the Sony / Crunchyroll / Fun over the last few days).

[–] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Surprisingly, all music purchases through apple’s store are DRM-free (now, though it wasn’t always that way. They got in early on the DRM wagon in fact until iPods stopped mattering).

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, when there's a service problem, I'd rather sail than 'buying' digital.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I don't wan to pay for music i don't own, the free version of Spotify is pretty useless due to the severe limitations, spotify grayed a lot of songs in my playlists because of uncleared samples and I also want to support artists when I can afford it

Since i'm not paying for streaming services, I can't download the tracks for offline playback and on Spotify the limit is 10k tracks but my library is over 40k tracks.I also think local players are better than sttreaming services players. My music player Musicolet is the only music player that allows me to create queues so i don't have to remember the latest track i listened to on every playlists

[–] atocci@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Unless things have changed, you get unencrypted MP3s when buying from iTunes.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The apps were originally launched in preview last year, but Apple has now removed the preview tag after working with Microsoft to launch the apps.

The trio of apps, in combination with an overhauled iCloud for Windows app, are designed to move Windows users away from the reliance of iTunes, according to MacRumors.

The Apple Music app provides access to the iTunes library, alongside song and album purchases.

Apple TV also lets Windows users watch movies and TV shows from their iTunes library, along with subscription streaming content.

Apple Devices lets PC owners backup or restore iPhones and iPads, as well as sync content to those devices.

Microsoft has been working with Apple on the apps, and even welcomed their launch this week.


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[–] rhebucks-zh@incremental.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't expect Apple to use their resources on non-Mac apps.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you haven't been paying attention. They've supported iTunes quite well on Windows for decades and iCloud for as long as it's been around. Hell, Apple Music has a better Android UX than YouTube Music does.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, Apple Music has a better Android UX than YouTube Music does.

That's a pretty low bar to jump.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rhebucks-zh@incremental.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Especially with that Fischer-Price "Material You" trash that ruined years of work on making the interface more subdue and classy enough

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I've been using soulseek and 3utools ever since they made iTunes a Microsoft store app. guess I'm not surprised it ended up like this.

[–] Gregu@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Note that you can still download your music, movies and tv shows for offline use. These are basically the same apps that Mac users have been using instead of iTunes for awhile now.

[–] trailblazer911@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Apple Music App is just a web browser in disguise. It's bug-ridden too. Although Lossless Audio works fine.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Oh god. I thought at least Apple had some standard of quality left for the software they're releasing. Though considering this isn't for their own platform, and their track record for their other Windows software (at least iTunes) maybe I shouldn't be too surprised.

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