Somebody tell this guy that Trump got the vaccine.
this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2024
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Your facts wouldn't matter. Even if peer reviewed, posted online, and signed by Trump himself.
It was one of the few times his people booed him. Anti-vaccine hysteria is the only thing more powerful in right wing circles than Trump himself.
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I can see the Fox headlines now: "Man dies almost immediately after getting vaccinated"
Another COVID death for the statistics.
Is this what Joe Rogan was talking about when he was talking about sudden vaccine deaths?
Seriously though this is brutal and freaking disgusting. Your misinformation campaign isn't just about money it takes people's lives too.
I feel like blaming this on the covid disinfo might be going too far. If the guy was this unhinged, it was just a matter of time before something triggered him.
THAT IS WHY DISINFO RHETORIC IS DANGEROUS
I for one support imprisoning all radical fascist right wing conspiracist talk show hosts. They are literally a Clear And Oresent Danger and must have miltary action taken against them.
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#JustConservativeThings
I'll be damned they were right. Taking the vaccine can have lethal side effects.
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weird how so many vaccine conspiracy people just want to kill people.
Funny how mental illness can do that.
Edit - Jfc people. Yes, murdering your father because you're so deep down the conspiracy rabbithole is a very clear sign that you have serious untreated mental illness. Is that really that hard to understand?
And no, it's not a get out jail free card. It's identifying that propaganda preys on the mentally ill for indoctrination, and that a subset of the mentally ill are extraordinarily predisposed to violence as part of their condition.
No, no, just fucking no.
It was not mental illness that killed this man, it was his hateful asshole son.
I fucking hate this rethoric that just leads to more discrimination against people with an actual mental illness.
No, it is a legitimate mental illness.
I will lay a bet that if we were to perform a neuroimaging exam of this man’s brain, we would find a hypertrophic amygdala (which is the physical part of the brain that detects and classifies fear and threat responses) heavily primed to kick off a reaction in the limbic system. It’s a hair trigger over which you don’t have conscious control at that point. I will also guarantee he has a hypotrophied prefrontal cortex, which is the slower to react but more evolutionarily advanced part of the brain that’s supposed to keep all that stuff in check by asking “Is that what’s really happening?” and “What will happen to me if I do this?” There’s also a very solid chance we’d find evidence traumatic brain injury, with is present in 50%+ of persons in jail for violent crime and about 10% in the general population. We could do a blood work up, a DNA test, a psychological history, and so on.
We’re talking about structural, chemical, genetic, and psychological determinants. I don’t know how to classify that other than mental illness requiring treatment. I’m going to use a non-preferred term in its colloquial sense, but if a person is psychotic, you’re not going to punish them back to mental health.
Not everyone with mental illness is violent - almost none are. But people with these conditions are indeed mentally ill - it is a medical, not a moral condition - and until we approach it like that, we’re not going to be able to begin to address it.
I do not believe that we have free will, but I think in extreme cases like this you don’t even need to go that far. You’re no more going to fix a person like this morally than you’re going to cure epilepsy with an exorcism.
So you just used a whole lot of words why this dude might have mental illness after all.
Funny how mental illness can do that.
Do you then also think that this is a totally cool and appropriate statement to make?
I just don't.
Yes, it is my educated opinion that this person, for the reasons I outlined at a pretty high level, has mental illness.
No, I do not think that the other person’s statement was totally cool. I agree with you that it was insensitive and dismissive. I want to make it very clear that I’m not trying to invalidate the reaction that kind of comment inspires.
What I am saying is that we do not do the fields of medicine, mental health, or criminal justice reform any favors if we try to take the stance that mental illness has no role to play in these kinds of incidents.
Look, I’m a researcher. One of my primary areas of research is studying how susceptibility to contagious ideas like these cluster in social networks and how they’re exploited by the viral contagion between individuals as pushed by their peers and mass/social media. I can get all into sigmoid transfer functions from opinions to behavior and how they’re left-shifted by predispositions.
But my main, ethical point is that this is a medical problem, and we need to treat it like one. None of that casts aspersions or makes any assumptions whatsoever about the vast spectrum that constitutes what we broadly and often erroneously term “mental health.” It just means that people need psychological and medical interventions rather than life in prison or the electric chair.
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Even if he was mentally ill his specific fear of vaccines didn't just materialize out of thin air. It's not a get out of jail free card. Especially for the people who taught him to hate vaccines.
STOP FUCKING USING THAT STUPID FUCKING EXCUSE.
IT IS NOT MENTAL ILLNESS; IT IS STRAIGHT UP FASCIST PROPAGANDA
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Jokes aside this man beat his father to death, with his fists, because of a medical decision. His dad was crying out "stop! You're killing me!"
I dont give a FUCK what medical decision that is, it does not call for violence.
I feel so sorry for the father and his family, and for the woman on the phone who had to listen to everything play out
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Whenever I see “Florida man…” I think it can’t be any worse than the last one, and every time I’m proven wrong.
This is what your rhetoric causes, you assholes. Now people will have to hide and lie about their vaccine status to stay safe. I hope they declare him mentally incompetent to make his own healthcare decisions then strap him down and give him the Covid vaccine.
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Just another day in Florida.
Is this how they thought the vaccine would kill us?? I thought it was heart attacks or something
Yeah, shouldn't we all be dropping dead or whatever it was by now?
Um literally billions of people are dying from the vaccine and you just don't know about it because the media won't cover it. Or something.
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GTA6 has leaked
Is this the same guy who cut off his father's head, or some other kook?
Different one. The other guy was from PA and decided his dad's career in the army corps of engineers made him part of the deep state, or some such shit.
“The” pow “vaccine” bam! “kills!” slash
Father?
Father what have I done?!
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This is where we are.
Florida Man strikes again
He's been arrested so many times yet keeps coming back to commit crimes again and again. Maybe that's his superpower.
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Oh no, another degenerate who won’t be able to vote for Trump
relevant username from OP ? /s
Shhhh they will hear you
At least he’s out of the voting pool. Wish he’d have drank bleach- but this will have to do.
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Some horrible idiot did something horrible and idiotic according to a random website... what is the purpose of posting something like this?
This is news. Posted on a fox affiliate’s news website. That reports the news. Posted to a news community.
I’m very confused about why you’re confused about this being posted. This isn’t some newsmax opinion piece or something.
because it has 0 informative value:
- We dont need to know every time somebody in this planet kills somebody else.
- We dont need to know the horrible details about it.
- The source is not serious and is writing this for clickbait.
- This is a.k.a. yellow journalism.
I am sorry /c/news was not up to your standards of excellence today. You should enquire about a refund.
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