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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Shipped in Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052. https://www.tiraniddo.dev/2024/02/sudo-on-windows-quick-rundown.html claims it has a big security problem that makes the program accept calls to elevate from anywhere once first run

Edit:

  1. The security problem has been internally fixed and will be available in the next release
  2. It's not just an alias for 'runas'. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.
  3. It brings up UAC instead of having you input the password
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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This incident will be reported.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Would you like to buy some sudocrem?"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Install Linux already, get it over with. Windows has been and still is a sad joke, why pay for that crap?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Sure, tell my corporate overlords to do that, on thousands of computers across the globe.

At home i can do what I want, at work I have to bow down.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Because business uses Windows services, which are, by far, the most common. And when collaborating and sharing files is essential this is a major deal breaker. I love *nix but it just wouldn’t work as well in the business world until there are wide spread services that replicate or do better than what Microsoft does with enterprise support and pricing in mind.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can get a legit Windows 11 key for like 5 bucks, no reason not to install it honestly. Even if only for dual booting, it can save you a lot of headaches.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A product key, which allows you to use Windows to its fullest, costs money to Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a myth that people need to stop spreading.

Microsoft is a business. Microsoft is also not stupid. If it cost them more to provide a product than it makes them, they wouldn't provide it. They're is a huge amount of examples of them doing this. They don't provide it because they're nicer guys.

Microsoft uses Windows, and all of it's products, as a vehicle for Azure and advertisers. Everything they do feeds into that one way or another.

Microsoft stopped being a software company some time ago.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant it costs money, which goes to Microsoft. It was poorly worded.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That makes sense. 👍

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most people here pirate it or get the price bundled with their manufacturer. It’s surprisingly easy

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sudo already exists, is it okay to just name a different program by the same name?

Guess which one Bing search will try harder to return.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate searching for sway config stuff using DDG (which returns Bing results).

Chances are never zero that that there is an outdated MS product with the same name of what you're searching.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I feel this, I type swaywm instead now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold up. DDG returns Bing results? TIL. Is that true? How do we know? Do they state this, themselves?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/

Most of our search result pages feature one or more Instant Answers. To deliver Instant Answers on specific topics, DuckDuckGo leverages many sources, including specialized sources like Sportradar and crowd-sourced sites like Wikipedia. We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing. Our focus is synthesizing all these sources to create a superior search experience.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They are already doing it for other commands. Eg curl.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Welcome to 1980, Microsoft (or 1993 if you're feeling really generous).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally! The day I've been waiting for so long. Goodbye Linux, hello Windows!

- nobody ever

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In your mind, do you really think that is the intention here? Seems more like a convenience for people who use both Linux and Windows.

I have to use both so I welcome it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Seriously. My home PC runs Linux primarily, but I sysadmin both Windows and Linux at work and this will be very convenient. Forgetting to run PowerShell as admin is always frustrating, especially when I have the commands and variables already established.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok, so yea just a "better" version of runas. I can see it being a bit easier when you just need to do the one thing as admin, but overall just opening an admin windows is still going to be the best way.

I really think the security issues makes it not worth enabling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep. It's basically an alias for:

runas /user:administrator

If you want to open a new command line window with admin privs you can always do:

runas /user: administrator CMD.exe

Which is of course on Linux this would kinda be like running:

sudo su
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just an alias. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh thank goodness! I have been waiting so long for this

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why wait? Linux has had sudo for over 25 years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And sudo itself has existed for over 40 years

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

sometimes I work on windows. I miss sudo when I do 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Soooo revolutionary and unique like Phone Link

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they ask for permission first? :p

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

looks like shit thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Substitute user do", most commonly used on Linux to run your command as superuser (think admin mode on Windows)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That still sounds so weird, as opposed to the old “super user do”.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and i'm thinking about switching to doas.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tell me it has a better configuration format than sudo.

(I've ditched sudo for OpenBSD 'doas' across the board ever since it made its way into debian's repos)

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