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I run proprietary Nvidia drivers as well and Wayland runs so much better than Xorg now that I'm permanently coming over to Wayland. I'm extremely happy rn with Wayland
Have fun with your 10% FPS drop, undocumented glitches, and zero support for 45 degree tilted monitors lol
45 degree tilted monitors lol
WTH? That's a "thing" who or why would you even do that?
Because why not lmao
22 degrees... Perfection π
So this here I think is the best monitor orientation for software development. It provides the longest line lengths and no longer need to worry about that pesky 80 column limit.
ultra wide monitor
I'm scared
Somewhere in Xorg, there exists a patch that fixes vertical sync so that glxgears could be displayed by printing out every individual frame. And honestly, that's one of the main reasons to love linux ecosystem - because things are not done out of necessity, it facilitates the development of most flexible software with least assumptions and most freedom in how you can use it.
Not gonna lie, I specifically bought an AMD GPU laptop so I could run a Wayland WM. After trying and failing with my old nvidia optane razor laptop I gave up on Nvidia. I still use it on my desktop tho. It's so much smoother than X-11.
same here. few years ago ditched the nvidia card for amd and made my life rasier. wayland on fedora all the way, no issues. but i guess i'm completely different type of user.
It should be noted that for some reason, people in Linux communities seem to never watch hardware accelerated video content, because AMD 6000 and 7000 have HUGE issues regarding video decoding on Linux, Im talking full system crash or full system freezes after 30 minutes of watching videos on youtube (and thats without mentionning the video freezing for a few seconds with the audio still going, and then catching up, and refreezing a few seconds later). It caused me to install Chrome which does not have hardware acceleration yet to watch youtube if I wanted to have an uptime of more than 1.5 days.
These issues have only been reported on AMD's iGPUs though, so I think dedicated graphics cards should be fine. But anyways, for this reason alone, I would just recommend Intel chips for most users, especially now with the new Intel Gen 1 Ultra or whatever its called, the GPU is basically on-par with AMD and the CPU is very close as well.
Hm weird. Running 6000 series igpu with hw decoding on, no issues.
On desktop 7000 series dGpu, also no issues.
There were some Frame drops in the past, but current kernel + Mesa has no issues for me.
I had those before. Tought the card was bust somehow, turns out it was driver issues. You do run into quirks here and there, too.
AMD drivers are much better but are not the utopia some users say they are.
I was seeing those issues on my 7840u, but they were completely resolved with the testing firmware for phoenix here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044
I am monitoring this issue mainly, and I saw recently they seemed to have a fix, but I am not really interested in patching my drivers because its my daily driver computer
From what I understand, the updated firmware image has passed all the tests and will be included in an upcoming release. My system has been rock solid for a few weeks now with it running, but if you aren't up to dropping the blob in yourself it sounds like you'll have it officially soon (assuming you run a distro that keeps those up to date).
I had nothing but issues running Wayland with Nvidia. How strange.
That's because the drivers are bullshit but not the problem in general. They work well for some very specific cards, not at all for other and in general it's just random hit or miss.
And then, to make it more fun, not all wayland compositors are born equal either.
I keep trying Wayland and an in the middle of an attempt. I use fedora maniacally updated, Nvidia, and plasma shell. I'm about to abort again:
-even configured to directly use Wayland, I see chrome based browsers glitch out on occasion, and when it starts glitching it just keeps on glitching
-plasma panel stops updating multiple times a day, staying frozen including the clock
-sometimes kwin starts, but plasmashell has to run manually, and per above has to be restarted on occasion
-occasionally it just forgets what the monitor resolution is supposed to be and reverts to 1024x768
-the blur translucency effect glitches around mouse cursor
-immersedvr doesn't support Wayland
On the flip side, xorg problems are: -occasionally kwin can't grab keyboard for some effects until restarted. This is a well documented bug butt other than it being xorg specific, doesn't seem to be figured out.
-some things tear in ugly ways, but not nearly as bad as the chrome glitch under Wayland.
Maybe kwin isn't a great Wayland compositor, maybe Nvidia drivers are still not up to snuff. Ultimately, it's not viable for me. Further kwin is a huge factor for "why Linux desktop" for me, gnome shell is more limited even than Windows for my workflows.
I use i3 and kde on void with an amd gpu, i tried kde wayland and sway (and i check on them every few weeks), but I've found them to be buggy and sway in particular to be very difficult. I honestly have no idea why it's been like this for me, i look forward to the day wayland is truly as good as x11
KDE and Wayland works perfectly, at least if you are on 5.27 or even Plasma 6 beta.
Bought a new AMD GPU to run Wayland. Here's to NVIDIA getting their shit together or, more likely, going bankrupt.
That's hilarious. π Linux users dropping Nvidia en-masse would be like a half a percent blip on their desktop market share. Probably couldn't even tell if it's a rounding error.
This is a company that's speculated to drop the desktop consumer market altogether at some point. They make so much money from other industries it's obscene. I suspect they only keep the gaming and desktop crowd around for the drama and the publicity. They don't really give a shit anymore.
Which would be sad in a way because Linux gaming was built on Nvidia. For the longest time it was the one manufacturer you could count on to be there and deliver decent, accelerated Linux drivers consistently.
Well to be fair, most AI workloads are on Linux and that's a huge fraction of their sales. But desktop Linux, yeah, not going to notice at all.
I suspect that's the main reason they've bothered supporting the desktop Linux crowd, we act as free testers for their more lucrative Linux-based deals.
Let's say there's half a million Nvidia Linux desktop users, that's super few if you think of them as desktop customers, but they're worth gold as free QA people.
Consider all the gamers with more money than sense buying 4090s for the price of cars and, more importantly, many companies buying datacenter cards for their next generative AI project (not that I think many of them will last).
I don't see Nvidia running out of money any time soon.
I was super happy under Wayland but switched back to x11 when my maximize and minimize buttons in Firefox (yes only Firefox) disappeared randomly after an update. It's such a small issue I lived with it for a few weeks until I changed to x11 troubleshooting some other minor issue and saw they were back (and the problem I switched for was completely unrelated, lol). The different experiences for me were basically invisible so I never bothered switching back.
Mostly I don't have strong feelings one way or the other currently, my install defaulted to x11 originally, I switched to check Wayland out and really didn't notice any major differences. I was told I'd have so many issues in Wayland that just didn't seem to exist...
my ONLY gripe with wayland rn is the lack of global hotkey support, which currently breaks Discord/other's "push to talk" feature unless you install a webserver to control your mic via your compositor's hotkey system and HTML requests π
I suppose push to talk can and should be owned by the desktop and not any particular app, but Id like an interim protocol until then
global discord hotkeys work for me on sway and hyprland for the most part
Iβm running kde on debian stable. Iβll let you know when my branch is ready. Until then its X11 all the way. Wayland wont even let me log in.
Same situation, but my machine just suddenly rebooted for no apparent reason 10 minutes ago. I hope Plasma 6 irons out these instabilities.
Same I wanna try KDE Plasma 6 and Pop!_OS's cosmic desktop when they release. These projects look really cool
If I could run Wayland with Nvidia I would actually go to the trouble of configuring Nix.
Does anyone know a good screenshot tool for wayland?
I just been using gnomes built in screenshot tool
I'm just salty that I have bugs and other folk don't. I'll regret my username choice in the future for sure but for now, I'm just going to stubbornly stick by it until NVIDIA makes better drivers
Are you using the new 550 drivers? They are supposed to include lots of wayland related fixes. I might try it myself once they update it on the arch repo. Last time I tried, my 2060 and 525 drivers just did not go with wayland, at all.
Games are not happy on XWayland when there's a gsync only monitor at play.
I can recommend a hybrid setup. That works well with Wayland as long as you set that one kernel parameter. Otherwise the two GPUs won't be in sync and you get glitches when using the dedicated one.
I've been using NVIDIA under Wayland for a few months now and it's been... alright? No major issues on v535 (however v545 is buggy as hell for me, Minecraft would show a black screen whenever too many pixels were updated -- needless to say, I downgraded).
However, I'd still love to swap to an AMD GPU because of better Linux support, maybe keep my current GPU for passthrough.
Hyprland nvidia here, running without and issues so far for about a month
I too am at nvidia wayland. have fun
Wayland is not ready yet. I'll wait till its done before jumping over.